Federal judges' association calls emergency meeting after DOJ intervenes in case of Trump ally Roger

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  1. Cubed

    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As I posted previously: you don't need the victims cooperation to convict someone. It will likely be much more difficult but witness testimony can be subpoenaed by the prosecutor.

    And technically, no. There is no differentiation before the eyes of the law.

    You can repeat the same argument over and over as much as you like but it doesn't change the absolute facts under the law.
     
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    IMPEACH BARR!!!
    Yes, the corporate punditry was/is completely complicate. Sell-outs!
     
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  3. Bluesguy

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    And the laws come under circumstances and in this circumstance the alleged victim said he wasn't and was never threatened it was their normal everyday interaction. End of story he should never have been charged in the first place.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    You know if I were to call Wikileaks about some information the press was reporting was about to be release I wouldn't ask them about a source because their JOB is to protect the SOURCE. I guess he didn't get anything so why call someone at the Trump campaign. It wasn't a secret WIKI had some emails.

    Tell me if you were on the jury of one brother charged with assault because the police say him give his brother a shot in the arm and the brother testified no it wasn't an assault it was our daily horsing around would you vote to convict him of violating the law and put him in jail?
     
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  5. Bluesguy

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    Apparently you don't nor the facts in this case. As soon as the got the FISA warrant and it became a counter-intelligence investigation they could go where they wanted it's not limited to new communications it's a warrant to seek previous communications too, wherever the investigation leads. They investigated his travels and his contacts. And all because he was associated with the campaign.
     
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  6. TurnerAshby

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    Why's that? Either make your argument or don't.....
     
  7. The Mello Guy

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    He fired the fbi Director who was investigating his campaign
    He’s constantly tweeting about the unfairness of sentences for guys arrested in connection with his campaign.
    His tweet also resulted in a lesser sentence requested for his contact with Wikileaks
    Barr is shutting down investigations into trump or just refusing to open them.
    None of those look like conflicts to you?
     
  8. The Mello Guy

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    Foreign communications. And it’s not like they can go back and listen to a call that already happened. He never even worked for the campaign, they said so themselves!
    And again you’ve got zero proof any of this happened.
     
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    No. They don't. You make a "True Threat" then you've broken the law, as per SCOTUS. That's the end of story.
     
  10. TurnerAshby

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    Comey? The guy who everyone wanted fired and the IG found his agency tried to purposefully deceive the fisa courts.

    He's tweeting, ok

    Barr has done what that is a conflict of interest? By just being appointed is he guilty of conflict of interest? Because if so that's going to effectively neuter ALL future AG's

    Funny the only person I remember actually recusing themselves was a republican....

    Even this Stone crap, ask yourself why wasn't Brennan charged for lying to Congress about hacking into congress's server or Clapper lying to congress about collecting our data. If you could only charge one of the three which one would you choose? Which one of those hurts the average American worse?
     
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    So it doesn’t look bad to fire a guy investigating you, and then admit that’s why you did it???
    All of that is fine, but apparently lynch needed to meet bill to know that Hillary didn’t wanna go to prison lmao
    It was really a mystery before, some thought she might prefer prison? Lol
    Barr didn’t even recuse from an investigation that he should have been a part of! Lol
    But yes sessions was much more honorable as AG than Barr.
     
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  12. TurnerAshby

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    Idk what actually happened during the meeting so I'm not gonna speculate. I'm just saying that if Barr is guilty of conflict of interest based on an action he didn't do (Trumps tweet) then by that same metric Lynch clearly was guilty. Yet I don't recall 1,000 plus former Doj officials writing a letter about that.

    Most of the Barr talk about recusal doesn't center on actions he himself did but Trumps actions.
     
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    I don't find your analogy comparable. And, I don 't think anyone knew about the stolen e-mails before they were released, unless you count the Trump remark about hoping the Russians found the missing Clinton e-mails. But, perhaps, Assange can explain it all.
     
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    The walls are closing in.
     
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    It became a counter-intelligence investigation and they tried to use it as a way into the campaign, he was being investigated because of his association. You can deny the facts all you want.
     
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    It's completely comparible on what you are claiming. The emails were already being reported on it was not a secret. And don't spout that canard about Trump and the Russian finding the emails, it was a joke. he was joking about the New York Times report that day that the FBI was trying to recover them from the server she tried to erase them and maybe the Russians could help the FBI recovery them. You know the emails that belonged to us the taxpayers.
     
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    Barr has every right to intervene, just like Holder did.
     
  19. stone6

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    Doesn't look like we're going to get them all...maybe we'll have better luck with all of those Trump e-mails we own.
     
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    Of course it does it is a matter of degrees.
     
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    Trump is not a cabinet official who comes under the federal archiving laws. Her official emails are property of the US Government, the taxpayers. They are to be archived for use by the public and the government. It was a hilarious joke that the Russians could maybe help the FBI recovery the emails she tried to destroy and hide.
     
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    Check-out Title 44 of the U.S. Code, Chapter 22, "Presidential Records." Think you'll find the President does have responsibilities for the retention of records.
     
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    The math doesn't work.
     
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    You’ve got zero evidence they got anything regarding anyone in the campaign via page. He was being investigated because despite being contacted by Russian agents once, he was heading to Moscow
     
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    What math?
     

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