Females As Leaders/Pastors Of Males In Evangelical Churches.

And yet wives are to obey their husbands as their husbands obey the lord, are not to be priests, etc.

Only to bigots.

Christians have forced plenty of conversions over the centuries.

 

You certainly fear homosexuals to equate them nearly as dangerous as murderers.
How is one having consensual sex any way related to be nearly as dangerous to murderers. Other than fear alone.

 

When Evangelicals say free, they mean they are free to be beaten or not beaten if they don't follow their master. I assume.
How else is one to be subservient and still be free?

 

The good news is they are declining in both power and numbers, at least in the west (and in some other places too). Being bigoted against homosexuals is now almost universally seen as negative now in western cultures. Less than a century ago that was reversed.

 

Did you'all just come here to insult Christians?

Ephesians 5:21-33 NLT
[21] And further, submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.

[22] For wives, this means submit to your husbands as to the Lord. [23] For a husband is the head of his wife as Christ is the head of the church. He is the Savior of his body, the church. [24] As the church submits to Christ, so you wives should submit to your husbands in everything.

[25] For husbands, this means love your wives, just as Christ loved the church. He gave up his life for her [26] to make her holy and clean, washed by the cleansing of God's word. [27] He did this to present her to himself as a glorious church without a spot or wrinkle or any other blemish. Instead, she will be holy and without fault. [28] In the same way, husbands ought to love their wives as they love their own bodies. For a man who loves his wife actually shows love for himself. [29] No one hates his own body but feeds and cares for it, just as Christ cares for the church. [30] And we are members of his body.

[31] As the Scriptures say, "A man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife, and the two are united into one." [32] This is a great mystery, but it is an illustration of the way Christ and the church are one. [33] So again I say, each man must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

John 13:3-7 NLT
[3] Jesus knew that the Father had given him authority over everything and that he had come from God and would return to God. [4] So he got up from the table, took off his robe, wrapped a towel around his waist, [5] and poured water into a basin. Then he began to wash the disciples' feet, drying them with the towel he had around him.

[6] When Jesus came to Simon Peter, Peter said to him, "Lord, are you going to wash my feet?"

[7] Jesus replied, "You don't understand now what I am doing, but someday you will."

Hopefully, someday you will as well.

Are you an AIDS denier?

Name one.

 

But that is their propaganda and you posted it. Reality is not dishonest.

Thank you admitting you came here to make a "Back handed, note dishonest, response."

I did. Maybe if you had bothered to read the thread and continue a conversation instead of making a "Back handed, note dishonest, response", you'd have realized this.

And you claim not to be a Democrat . . . I doubt Donald Trump agrees with me on a number of issues discussed here.

I believe you're projecting again.

 

"wives should submit to husbands in everything".... But the Bible isn't sexist? Lol

 

Are you an AIDS denier?

 

Your beef is with the OP, I am actually on your side if you believe christians are supportive of women in leadership and LGBTQ is not a slippery slope.
My posts are not that confusing. LOL.

 

LOL. Maybe dishonesty isn't the actual problem to your posts.
But something even more troubling.

Definition of murderer
: one who murders especially : one who commits the crime of murder

 

Jesus is a complicated character whom many hate.

 

It isn't on us if you find the truth insulting, but it does show progress. Less than a century ago, the response would not have been calling this an insult to Christianity, but calling it accurate and proper.

No. Are you a disciple of Fred Phelps?

Inquisitions, witch trials, crusades, native children taken from parents and being forced into Christian schools (the bodies of who were recently found in mass graves). The list is quite long.

Here in Canada we had a law on the books punishing "witchcraft" until the mid 2010s. As a child here I myself was forced to stand and bow my head while the Lord's Prayer was recited every morning in public school.

 

And a character who quite oddly most Christians often ignore. As Ghandi once famously said "I like your Christ but not so much your Christians, your Christ is so unlike your Christians".

I think it may be difficult to find anybody who hates Jesus, even among the most anti-christian minds.

 

I don't find the truth insulting.

So that makes your previous post wrong.

Fred Phelps is a Calvinist. I am not.

The Roman Imperial Church and their ilk.

 

The Protestants were every bit as brutal and forceful until they, like the Catholics, were defanged by the secular influence of the Enlightenment.

 

If Jesus were living today, most would hate him.

His disciples were all Jewish heterosexual men for starters. By itself this would cause many to hate him.

 

The "protestants" you are talking about are just another version of the Roman Imperial Church - keeping the key religious beliefs, structure, and political ambitions.

The Roman Imperial Church and their ilk were not defanged by the enlightenment. This didn't happen until Christians started to demand a separation of church and state in the U.S. Church and state did not separate before then. And it still has not separated in many countries - especially those without a Christian influence.

 

The separation of church and state you are talking about IS a result of that defanging. And the book of Romans explicitly supports the divine right of kings and other refusals of said separation. There's a reason why Christians didn't "demand" this solution until after the Enlightenment -- after pagan Classical literature was more readily available and deism was becoming more and more popular. Even then, the early US had a shaky relationship with this separation. Just look at the way they treated Thomas Paine for criticizing the Bible.

 

HIV is now a fairly manageable, though obviously still serious, disease. And it is preventable. And unless something has changed, lesbians have lower HIV rates than straight people do. HIV is a virus, not a curse on gay people.

 

If Jesus was alive today I would not be at all surprised if Christians hated him.

 

No, it wasn't.

No, it doesn't.

The key was to break free of the monarchies established under the Roman Imperial Church.

His letter to Washington and association with the bloody French Revolution had nothing to do with it?

Like Nero, people seem to always want to blame the Christians.

Yet still manages to kill half-a-million a year . . .

HIVs primary transmission is anal sex between homosexuals. The men would later transmit the disease to the wives that they cheated on. In addition blood from these homosexual men transmitted to many others in the blood system - slaughtering the hemophiliac population. Look at the reaction of governments to its citizens due to "Covid-19" - a man-made disease.

Never said it was a curse.

 

Jesus predicted this will happen to many who call themselves Christian.

Matthew 7:21-23 NLT
[21] "Not everyone who calls out to me, 'Lord! Lord!' will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. [22] On judgment day many will say to me, 'Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.' [23] But I will reply, 'I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God's laws.'