Feminists vs. Abortion

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Anansi the Spider, Jan 20, 2018.

  1. Anansi the Spider

    Anansi the Spider Well-Known Member

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    How is killing an unborn baby pro-woman?

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/the-original-feminism-is-pro-life/article/2646321

    Many of these helpless unborn babies are women.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/27/opinion/27douthat.html

    The abortion industry has killed tens of millions of small women! It's the greatest mass killing of women in history: gendercide.

    Women are lied to by the abortion industry. If you respect choice do you lie to the one making the decision?

    https://www.liveaction.org/what-we-do/investigations/medical-misinformation/

    The abortion industry & pro-abortion politicians fight regulations that protect women's health.

    http://www.ncregister.com/daily-new...a-and-regulatory-failure-to-react-to-abortion

    http://www.lifenews.com/2014/02/25/...t-risk-without-hospital-admitting-privileges/
     
  2. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    It isn't, who told you it was?

    Allowing women to make their own reproductive decisions is pro-woman.









    No, they are fetuses.

    Are you suggesting only male fetuses be aborted?


    What lies are they told?




    If you respect choice why do you want to force women to gestate?

    Who is lying and what is this alleged lie?


    Oh, look, LIEnews.com....not biased at all....;)


    NO, PRO-CHOICE people do NOT fight regulations that protect women's health, that would be Republicans who want to shut down clinics that provide health care for women and want to cut funding like Welfare, WIC, SNAP...entities that help those "precious lives" once they're BORN.
     
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    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    This thread is going nowhere but downhill, and fast. Pretty predicable though.
     
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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    You: "our freedom ends when we harm others""

    YUP!

    And that is why if a fetus was ever deemed a PERSON with rights the woman it's in would have every right to kill it.

    The fetus would NOT have the right to harm another.

    AND NO one has the right to use another's body to sustain their life...NO one.....





    I don't give a damn what your "elites" want or do.....it's the hilariously named "Pro-Lifers" control freaks who want to ban abortion so women's lives can be hell that I want to stop.


    ...


    WHY?
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    UH, THIS is what I posted :
    """NO, PRO-CHOICE people do NOT fight regulations that protect women's health, that would be Republicans who want to shut down clinics that provide health care for women""

    Now WHERE in that sentence did I call you a Republican? W H E R E ?

    If you can't show me where, and you can't , then you should calm down and think....and not accuse people of lying....and ADMIT my sentence is correct :

    ""PRO-CHOICE people do NOT fight regulations that protect women's health, that would be Republicans who want to shut down clinics that provide health care for womenand want to cut funding like Welfare, WIC, SNAP...entities that help those "precious lives" once they're BORN.""

    HOW is that NOT correct? WHERE did I call you a Republican?


    No, I don't need your biased sites or need to hear how "it's all Clinton's fault" :roflol:

    Anansi, how many years have you been offering these tired, weak, lame justifications for taking away women's rights to their own bodies?

    Why are you obsessed with making women into nothing more than broodstock?

    Seems like an awful way to spend your life, trying to make others unhappy....that's not very nice...
     
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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Ya, the Anti-Women's Rights people's "points" rapidly disintegrate when faced with facts...some realize it sooner ...and ;) some later...
     
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    I couldn’t agree with you more. Freedoms absolutely end where we harm others. For instance, when you use the body of another person against their will and then force biological changes that have many negative possible results.

    So you agree with me that women should be able to removed unwanted individuals from the use of their body if they desire, yes?
     
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    • Flamebaiting (Rule 2/3)
    You keep repeating these feeble arguments as if they make sense.

    Quote: The child did not cause the situation. In real life, the parents are the causative agents of both the pregnancy and the child's dependence.

    Link: http://l4l.org/library/thomviol.html

    <Rule 2/3> A woman's life will be Hell unless she kills her children?!?

    Please recognize that many Democrats want restrictions on the cruel abortion industry.

    Quote: 63 percent of Americans now strongly support a ban on abortion after 20 weeks of pregnancy, up from 59 percent just a year ago. The number of Democrats who support the same ban has increased to 56 percent from 49 percent in January 2017. Also noteworthy is that 61 percent of Democrats want significant restrictions on abortion.

    Link: www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/01/19/march-for-life-reminds-us-that-attitudes-on-abortion-are-changing-one-beautiful-ultrasound-at-time.html

    Another article: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/pro-life-pro-science/549308/

    <Rule 2/3>

    Can you refute any of the facts presented in the article? <Rule 3>

    <Mod Edit>

    <Rule 3>

    So a woman killing her children = happiness?! <Rule 2/3>

    Check this out: http://www.lifenews.com/2013/10/31/...e-their-nightmare-stories-of-abortion-regret/
     
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    Anansi the Spider said:
    Should women (or men) have the right to harm their children? Torture animals? Hold slaves? Of course our freedom ends when we harm others. """"""""




    Anansi : "our freedom ends when we harm others""

    FoxHastings :YUP!

    And that is why if a fetus was ever deemed a PERSON with rights the woman it's in would have every right to kill it.

    The fetus would NOT have the right to harm another.

    AND NO one has the right to use another's body to sustain their life...NO one.....



    Uh, YOU are the one who posted """Of course our freedom ends when we harm others"""""

    You just couldn't face how that really works :)
     
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    <Rule 2/3>

    Surely you want to ban some abortions. You want protection for babies about to be born, right? <Rule 2/3>

    What is your evidence for this statement?

    <Rule 2/3>

    You completely ignored the point I made at the beginning of post #8. <Rule 2/3>

    Why do you want to declare vulnerable humans unpersons?

    [​IMG]

    Why do you want to kill off the next generation? Don't you see that societies that kill children in their mothers' womb will be replaced by societies that value children? Societies that are foolish enough to listen to your advice will simply go extinct.

    Why FoxHastings do you run from my questions?
     
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    Since most of your post is rambling BS, insults, and dodging points you don't like I'll just ask you(and you'll duck the question/issue AGAIN):

    I said: """"AND NO one has the right to use another's body to sustain their life...NO one....."""

    You disagree.

    Are you contending that if one person needs a new heart to live that they can force another person to give them their heart? That IS what you are saying.
     
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    Of course that's not what I'm saying.

    I'll post the link again: http://l4l.org/library/thomviol.html

    Now try reading the page again. It may be above your grade level, but have a go!

    Another question for you to ignore: Does motherhood harm a woman?
     
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    Where is this ideal country that bans all abortions?
     
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    You want to ban all abortions....right? What country should we model after?
     
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    • Insulting or personally attacking other posters (Rule 2)
    Nobody thinks a fetus is a person. That's a cuckoobananas claim, <Rule 2>

    Specks aren't people. It's a not difficult concept. Speck, person. Speck, person. Two different things. My cat has a brain the size of a walnut, and even she grasps the concept. <Rule 2/3>
     
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    YES, it IS what you are saying. You are saying that a fetus has the right to use another person's body to sustain their life, a right NO ONE ELSE HAS.



    One thing that has been noted about Anti-Choicers, they have no facts so always use insults.



    YES, pregnancy and child birth can and do harm women.


    I haven't ignored that question because you have never asked it....so there's another of your "misrepresentations"..


    ...and that's funny coming from a poster who never addresses facts presented...
     
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    Here's another you haven't answered , " Shouldn't the U.S. avoid Anti-Choice extremism?"



    Here's ANOTHER you haven't answered: "You want to ban all abortions....right? What country should we model after?"""


    Here's ANOTHER question you hid from: """They got pregnant so lose the right to their own body?"""


    Here's ANOTHER :

    You:
    """""Anansi the Spider said:
    How is killing an unborn baby pro-woman?""""""


    FoxHastings: It isn't, who told you it was?

    Allowing women to make their own reproductive decisions is pro-woman."""""




    Here's ANOTHER:

    Ananzi: """The abortion industry has killed tens of millions of small women! It's the greatest mass killing of women in history: gendercide.

    Women are lied to by the abortion industry.""""



    FoxHastings: What lies are they told?




    No answers so far ..........
     
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    It is pro-freedom; not pro-woman. Laws banning abortion are anti-freedom and anti-woman. Fetuses are not women or even infants. If you are concerned about their little lives, there are thousands of unwanted children that will never see the inside of a loving home. I know you advocate increasing that number, how about opening your home and decreasing it instead?
     
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    I guess all those Scandinavian countries that limit abortion to 12 weeks hate women. Yet they make up 40% of political representatives compared to 19% for the US.
     
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    Consistent libertarians are pro-life.

    http://www.l4l.org/

    Many people are eager to adopt.

    http://www.lifenews.com/2012/07/09/thirty-six-couples-wait-for-every-one-baby-who-is-adopted/
     
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    Good point. Many European countries are serious about restricting the rapacious abortion industry.
     
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    They also pay for abortions
     
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    I don't know how many do, but I know some U.S states pay for abortion.
     
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    And they should. Repeal the Hyde amendment
     
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