Fifteen year old Israeli has NDE and predicts 70 nations unite against Israel.

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    I believe the US would work for open markets (especially in oil) regardless of how oil is denominated. Of course, a change to some other currency would be a significant hit, so surely we will defend that, too.

    Israel is making a statement with its ethnic cleansing that will last for 100 years at the minimum regardless of how it is concluded.

    Surely we aren't stupid enough to cause a WWIII. But, we do need progress toward nations abidig by the rule of law rather than the law of the jungle.

    Today, we aren't even trying to do that. In fact, we're headed in the opposite direction, showing no respect for existing international law.
     
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    Amazing how somebody can come up with accusations against Israel and seemingly ignore the actual examples of ethnic cleansing that was done in Iraq, Syria and Iran.
     
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    Those three were not ignored - nor are they ignored now. President Bush put Syria on our list of countries where we favored regime change. With Iraq, we applied what economic, political and military pressure we could to stop the ethnic cleansing of Sunnis from the cities that the government believed to "belong" to Shia.

    And, why you think we've done nothing against Iran is just plain beyond understanding.

    Those three countries have received massive pressure from the US, complicated by the existence of small but virulant terrorist groups as well as revolutionaries we have supported.

    With Palestine, we SUPPORT Israel's ethnic cleansing.

    We given them huge aid for military as well as civilian purpose, and provide zero pressure for Israel to stop its ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. We use pressure in the UN to allow Israel to continue. We used our veto in the UN Security Council to prevent Palestine from being recognized as having full statehood - thus ensuring that Palestinians have far less defense against the military expulsions of their people from their land.

    We proceed on that basis knowing full well that our position is a clear refutation of our claims of recognition of rule of law, of representative government, and of humanitarian rights - which degrades any claims by us of credibiltiy on those issues when dealing with other world problems.
     
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    Am I wrong to have the impression that far, far, far, far, far more is being done under President Trump to protect ordinary people living in the Middle East from their regimes?
     
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    I see no evidence of that at all.

    He's cleaned up all vestiges of opposition we've had to Israel continuing war against Palestinians, including both Gaza and the ethnic cleansing of West Bank.

    He terminated the agreement between multiple nations that committed those nations to holding Iran to their signature - ensuring a far more global approach to economic and other sanctions than can be achieved by the US alone, and with far less legitimate authority than the US has on its own - especially after backing out of this deal.

    Trump demonstrated to the world that the USA doesn't care about our own word, leaving the US in a worse position to negotiate anything with anybody.

    Trump's military actions have proven to be spur of the moment and without considered foreign policy advice, leaving US military policy something other nations can not depend on and leaving individuals who helped us in places like Afghanistan and Iraq subject to death for having helped us - something that won't be forgotten.

    Against all advice and against Congress Trump has supported the Saudi ethnic slaughter in Yemen.

    Trump's reduction in US influence in the region leaves vacuums in Iraq and other places that are not being backfilled by any military or nonmilitary foreign policy action on our part.

    There is NO current US foreign policy in the ME. What exists is discrete actions taken by one individual who has authority to do so, but who has absolutely ZERO interest in consistent or well advised foreign policy. This is not an issue of party - Trump appears equally disinterested in his own party on this topic.


    The idea that this could lead to better lives for those in the region is just plain ridiculous.
     

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