Finland's government resigns over failed healthcare reform

1. Finland's government resigns over failed healthcare reform - BBC...
   www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47496326
   Mar 8, 2019 ... Finland's cabinet resigns en masse after failing to achieve its ... Mr Sipila announced his government's resignation in Helsinki on Friday ... the cost of providing pension and healthcare benefits can rise. ... The opposition Social Democrats have taken the lead in recent polls by several percentage points.
   
   
2. Universal Healthcare TANKS Finland! - The Real Side With Joe ...
   therealside.com/2019/03/universal-healthcare-tanks-finland/
   Mar 14, 2019 ... The government of Finland collapsed Friday due to the rising cost of ... Finland faces an aging population, with around 26 percent of its citizens ...
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   One has to wonder how the Democrats react to this and why it never made the news here?

 

They just need more migrants.

 

Lol their government didn’t collapse, the people in charge resigned

 

Yay socialism! Another country in chaos.

 

They don't have an AOC to fix it...

 

Hold your horses. There were already elections scheduled to take place on April 14 and that date is not going to be changed. It simply means the gov goes into 'care taker' mode until a new parliament is elected - at which point the proposed benefit changes can be put forward for a second time, assuming (as they know doubt hope) the incumbents get re-elected with a workable majority/coalition.

So calling it a 'collapse' is an exaggeration. Whoever wins they will still have their devilish public health care and benefits system in place plus or minus the proposed amendments. No rioting on the streets, no anarchy.

Not to mention the fact that there is another country (whose name escapes me right now) that doesn't have Finland's universal health care and welfare system and yet whose government also regularly seems to arbitrarily 'shut down' for some strange reason. And you can bet all of Finland's public services will stay open during their caretaker period, unlike that country whose name I can't remember.

 

Finland also tried universal basic income. It too failed.

 

Trump said we would never be a socialist nation and this why.

 

This just in....the US collapsed over wall funding. Lol

 

No money for the new government to pay for it.

 

Just like the wall

 

The wall is just a Democrat ploy against Trump. Seventy six thousand invading our country in one month is a national crises. If we can afford 100 billion a year to service illegals, we can afford at least 5 billion to keep them out.

 

1. 32 out of 33 developed nations has a universal healthcare system. So even if 1 failed, that is a very small failure rate and could be because of a unique problem in their specific system.
2. Our own system isn't any better, and we have an absolutely unaffordable system that hasn't been fixed by either party over the decades. It costs 3.5 trillion, almost as much as the government, and would cost only 1.5 trillion in an equivalent developed nation which on average costs 2 1/2 times less, and its projected to rise to almost 6 trillion by 2027. And we are now running trillion dollar deficits in a year during an economic expansion, assuming no recession and good growth, very bad.
3. Their problems aren't just with healthcare. They have one of the oldest populations in the world, have a very expensive pension program for the elderly, and experimenting with a basic income and these two factors are making their system un-affordable.
4. The opposition party isn't proposing ending universal healthcare, no serious party anywhere in the developed world except the GOP is proposing eliminating universal healthcare because universal healthcare is so universally popular thanks to the example from the US.
5. Finland only spends $4,500 per capita on healthcare expenditures compared to $10,200 (will be over $15,000 in a few years) for the US. They actually spend about the same on public government healthcare as we do and they don't have to pay for all that private insurance. If an aging population and rising obesity is increasing their healthcare costs, they can easily raise taxes, cut the non-healthcare welfare spending, and still spend a lot less than the US.

 

Again, just like that other country.

That aside all this means is that one round of proposed reforms failed to make it through parliament. Bid deal, this happens in all parliaments everywhere. At some point Finland will have to make adjustments to its budget, either increasing revenue or decreasing expenditure. If these particular reforms don't get through others, in due course will.

 

This is a valid point of rebuttal. I'm not going to defend the American Congress. But this is further proof that pure, universal health care doesn't work. The amount of financial strain on the system is greater than the ability to produce to meet demand(Health care, in this instance which is an inelastic market.) Does that mean people have to die?

No, of course not. It means we need smaller and smaller markets. To serve the most people, we need more options and not less. May UHC 'die' a fatal death

 

Absolute denial.

 

Fact.

The US government collapsed over wall funding.

 

A lot depends on how 'universal' the scheme is i.e. the range of drugs/procedures and support services etc covered by a UHC scheme. Do elective cosmetic procedures for instance need to be covered by UHC - IMO no. Do national vaccination or cancer screening programs need coverage? Probably yes. But every country with a scheme operates theirs a little differently from the others. What they almost all have in common though is that they operate better than the US health care system as measured by virtually every metric available.

 

Socialism always fails so this isnt surprising.

 

Factually incorrect

 

Of?

 

Didn't just 1 person resign? Just a few weeks before an election?

Sipila had previously said he would dissolve his centre-right coalition government if it failed to push through its healthcare and local government reform.

With election so close, analysts said the effect of Sipila’s resignation would be minor.

“Since elections were already set for 14 April, the resignation of the government is not a big deal at all at this point. Still, it does create some ugly headlines,” Nordea’s chief analyst Jan von Gerich wrote on Twitter.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-finland-government-idUSKCN1QP0R6

 

The problem has been particularly acute in Finland where the financial crisis of 2008-9 magnified the effects of demographic changes such as a rapidly declining birth rate.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-finland-government-idUSKCN1QP0R6

Perhaps.

 

The wall is just a ploy by tRUMP.
Even congress doesn't agree with him and his price tag.
That's why he had to cheat the system. And lie to do it.

 

Yes it is correct. History proves it.