First century church may have numbered 400,000... did the majority convert to Islam?

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Palestinian people = grandchildren of second century church, does this idea move you?

  1. Yes, I do find this idea profoundly moving.

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  2. No... I try to be completely unbiased about such issues.

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  3. This is interesting and I will research this further.

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  4. I think this could positively alter the Middle East conflict.

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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Good point.
    Show me where he said that.

    And whoever does not believe in Allah and His Messenger, then surely We have prepared burning fire for the unbelievers.
    Qur'an 48:13
     
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    Everyone who doesn't believe as you do is going to hell according to you - Jews, Native Americans, essentially everybody throughout Asia, etc.

    That's the foundational precept of your religion, isn't it?

    However, I don't agree that there is "common sense" in that.
     
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    He used his religion to justify robbing other people.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Ah yes, Just make sh-t up.
     
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    I didn't make that up.

    The religions based on the bible all say that one must follow a specific prescription or hell is the result. This is common among other religions, too. And, there are specific differences between various denominations. Sunni Islam doesn't have Ayatollahs. Protestants don't agree with the Pope being their required intercessor. The place of "works" isn't shared among all denominations. Eastern Orthodox Christians aren't identical to US protestants in their views.

    One thing we ALL have in common - our personal religious views are in the minority, as are they all.
     
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    I suspect that our Creator is testing us... to see if we will be respectful toward people who are not on the same page as us spiritually......
     
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    Of course.

    But, every individual can "suspect" stuff about religion - or god.

    Look at the stuff you post concerning the supernatural.
     
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    Palestinian Terrorism’s Jewish Roots
    By Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz March 26, 2019 , 1:31 pm

     
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    They are.

    They're all part of the ethnic cleansing Israel is carrying out against Palestine.

    Can you think of another humanitarian crime that huge since WWII?
     
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    That is an interesting theory........

    I would like to get your reaction to this possible scenario?


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...field-theory-of-m-w-p.548225/#post-1070050517


     
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    What Israel is doing in Palestine is provable and it's a major humanitarian atrocity.

    I'm not sure what your political aspirations have to do with getting Israel to cease its action against Palestine - or even just ending the contributions of US and Canada.
     
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    I may well fail in what I have in mind but.......
    potentially.... what I have in mind could significantly alter the economy of Israel:


    P. M. Netanyahu, President Trump has a 4.3 trillion dollar problem....

    and the Palestinian territories and for the nation of Jordan.


    Israel ready to build Red Sea-Dead Sea project with Jordan


     
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    I must beg to differ with you on this assertion because.......

    Ecclesiastes 10:19 "A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things. "
     
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    Oh really? Money is your god? Money is more important than freedom, representation, the rule of law, equal treatment?

    If you read the American declaration of independence you don't see our forefathers demanding money.

    What you see is:
    You can read the rest.

    This document is an indictment of Israel, which is carrying out humanitarian crimes against Palestine - not only in stealing their land and bulldozing their homes, but in ruling them by foreign military law carried out by mercenaries with NO local representation, no equality, and no interest in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    By OUR rules, Palestine has every right to oppose this humanitarian crime with EVERY means it has.

    Even so, Palestinian leadership has worked AGAINST violence, WITH the ADF and THROUGH the UN to achieve what justice it may find in the rule of law - a principle we SAY we stand for.

    So far, WE are guilty of promoting the humanitarian atrocity Israel is perpetrating.
     
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    Actually..... I make a sincere effort to NOT worship money but a significant percentage of political leaders seem to be doing so.

    It looks to me like a holocaust of sorts has been planned by Ottawa and Washington and by drawing attention to what has been happening I do attempt to set in motion a series of events that can begin to rectify this problem that is right here at home.


    Can we learn about the Washington Swamp from the Ottawa Swamp?


    Here are the statistics for deaths among African Americans since 1973:





    I believe that this was set up.......
    and something happened here in Canada back in 1974 that made this trend possible in the USA.





    Here is one of the major reasons why Canadian women feel pressured into having an abortion. They feel that our economic situation leaves them with really no choice other than to take the risk of living in relative poverty along with their child. This situation has been forced on them and we need to be more well informed about this.


    After P. M. Pierre E. Trudeau's colossal error here is how the national debt of
    Canada spiralled out of control:

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    My guess is that he was pressured into doing this so that the same thing could be
    arranged in the USA:


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    Many wealthy people believe that the only way to keep the lower class working
    hard is to keep them head over heels in debt and kind of hungry. Lower class people choosing to have an abortion is a positive thing in the minds of a lot of people who consider themselves to be the ELITE!

    https://www.michaeljournal.org/articles/social-credit/item/the-public-debt-problem?/plenty34.htm
    The Public-Debt Problem




    Here is how I explained this back in 2006 when I campaigned for the office of M. L. A. as an independent:

    From 1940 to 1974 the Government of Canada put roughly half of the total money supply into the economy through loans issued through the federally owned Bank of Canada. Provincial and municipal governments could borrow the money to build roads, schools, hospitals and sewage treatment facilities at zero or one percent interest. In 1974 we changed our system and since that time a higher and higher percentage of all government debt is financed through loans issued through privately owned banks. At this time it is ninety eight percent. This policy may be great for our banking sector but it was estimated that in the one year of 1995 alone our federal government could have saved roughly SIXTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in interest payments if we had gone back to creating half the total money supply through these low interest rate loans issued through the bank that is OWNED BY ALL CANADIANS.

    Considering that our deficit was approximately thirty billion dollars for that year, simply by changing back to an already proven monetary and banking system, we could theoretically have had a FEDERAL BUDGET SURPLUS OF THIRTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in 1995.


    The massive cutbacks in the Canadian military, in health care, highway construction, social programs and education were profoundly affected by these accounting practices?

    So what can you and I do about this problem?

    My 2006, 2008, 2016 and 2004 campaign writings as ART.




     

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