Five paragraphs that have the potential to save this world!

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  1. Etbauer

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    This isn't a real thing.
     
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    A lot of people think that but if.......
    the ninety percent of our brain that doesn't seem to be in use.......
    is somehow operational in eleven dimensions of space and time......
    then it is functioning in more fundamental....... .less complex energy....
    and could actually be much more stable and longer living.

    If you would like to think that there is absolutely zero connection between the
    invisible higher dimensions of space - and time with what near death experiencer George Ritchie M. D. reported..... that is certainly your decision......
    ... but I think that the possible connection is pretty obvious.
    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/george-ritchie.html
     
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    I don't really see how that can convince anyone. That sounds more like the effects of propaganda than a viable approach to believability.
    So again, this seems more like you wanting it to be true rather than it actually being true (which in turn indicates bias more than justification for belief).
    I'm not suggesting that convincing me is or should be your goal per se. I'm saying that you haven't addressed the issues of believability. I'm not saying convincing me is something you should be trying to do, I'm saying it should happen automatically if your arguments were caused by actual good reasons to believe.

    Now don't get me wrong, I am not without my biases (I believe those who say they have no biases are just oblivious to them) convincing me is not the hallmark of believability. It's just that trying to do it would be a step in the right direction.
    Yeah, well, if the being of NDE fame is Allah, or Vishnu or an unrelated spirit or simply your brain putting together signals that it doesn't recognise, then other actions are in order. Believability is important because if we get that wrong, then everything else on the topic can easily be wrong too.
     
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    A century from now......
    I am pretty sure that a huge percentage of humans will have came to the place where
    they agree with my assessment of NDE accounts..... that they fulfill this promise:

    John 16:25

    "These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father."

    And by the year 2185... the economy of America... and much of the world will look like this...... the seemingly low tech utopia that was shown to Howard Storm Ph. D.

    Swensson..... I am a janitor ........ I am not a scholar.... I read and write as a hobby.......
    I am not a professional at this and I am 99% certain that that comes as no surprise to you......

    I have found that in my own case simply reading high volumes of these accounts coincidentally
    turned out to give me answer after after answer to my own questions.........
    so I am assuming that whoever will research these NDE accounts will find the same thing
    happening for them.

    Here is an example of some of biggest questions..... and the best and CLEAREST
    and most easily understood answers that I ever found..... to my own questions......
    I found in NDE accounts.

    Could the Christian gospel be much worse news?

    and here is the bar none clearest and most easily understood answer to
    my question that I faced from 1990 - 1995........ that had me wondering if my
    own religion.... . was actually kind of terrible news for the majority?!

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

     
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    My goal...... is to give quotations of paragraphs from near death experiencers that
    answer some of my questions.... in hopes that you and other readers will go further and
    research these accounts yourself.

    But if you choose not to for whatever reason......
    then likely you could well remain unconvinced.

    I get the impression that you may be a professional Theologian.......
    if so.... doesn't these paragraphs from the NDE of Howard STorm Ph. D. remind you of so many
    passages in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and the minor prophets?

    So.... have you clicked on the following link and read this entire webpage?

    Have you Swensson yet taken the initiative to read all six pages of Howard Storm Ph. D's NDE account?
    For the record......... it answered many dozens of my own questions.

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04

     
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    Swensson... has the concept of reincarnation offended you.........
    and almost by itself turned you away from NDE accounts?

    If so....... I can kind of understand that.....
    This idea will have that same effect on many of the most religious
    Christians.

    It will become a hurdle that they will not be able to get over......

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/
    Christian Andreason chapter 5:
    That is I suppose part of the reason why even G-d Himself needs two centuries to usher in utopia on earth.....?

    Our children and grandchildren may be able to handle this......
    but maybe the bulk of our generation cannot?



    What is that white guy doin in my head? (Past life regression under hypnosis).

     
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    Obviously, nobody thinks anything they themselves believe is wrong on any particular issue (if they thought it was wrong, they wouldn't hold that belief). This doesn't really tell me anything.
    Is it good enough to have answers? If you asked me "where can I find an ATM?", would you prefer me saying "walk into the forest and then go in a circle" or "I don't have an answer for you"? It seems to me it's not enough that an answer is given, the answer needs to be reliable.
    I have read a number of things which you have sent my way. Not sure if this is one of them. Either way, they didn't resolve or even address the kinds of questions that I think should be resolved before one believes them.
     
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    But you have to admit that if a significant percentage of Christians began to take Helen Wambach Ph. D. more seriously.... . that would almost certainly have to be a step in the right direction?
     
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    Num 21:8 "And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.

    And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived."


    John 3:14 "And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:"


    A question / riddle for those of you who read this book:

    1. Who was Saul of Nazareth?

    2. Why would what he did fit with Moses making a serpent and putting it on a pole?
     

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