In the the UK a women is entitled to 9 months off and the father is entitled to 14 days off when they become a new parent. That coupled with the fact that employers are much more generous towards women returning to work after a long career break than a father. A father that wished to become a stay at home parent would more likely leave their job completly where's a woman would have their spot in the company left open for them until they wished to return. It's simply not equal to how new parents are treated and their rights are not the same. This is wrong and makes sure it's extemly hard for a father to be the stay at home parent. It simply does not make financial sense. Also along with social stigma with a family where the women earns all the money and the father stays at home. It makes for big gender divided. Apparently "The gender pay gap" is a big issues. So wouldn't pushing for more rights for fathers and giving them equal opportunities to be stay at home patents potentially solve this issues. As it is most women become mothers and then have to leave work to stay at home with the child because of an unfair system favoring the woman leaving work and social pressure for the father to be the person that earns the family unit money. With the huge persentage of women leaving work, working part time or whatever so they can have to look after children it messes up the figures of who earns then most money in general. Men have time to work on their careers, women have to put careers on a back seat and have to focus on children. What I'm saying what's it going to take to change social norms and laws to give fathers equal rights and opportunities as the mothers. Making it equally as viable as the fathers to stay at home as the mother. I would like to see gender of stay at home parents 50/50 split on average and a large % of women back working long hours grinding a wage a few weeks after giving birth so they can support the father and new child. In a modern world it should be divided equally.
I like your post but Feminism is not an equality movement. The objective of Feminism is to absolve women completely of everything. Modern Feminism's objective is not equality.
Feminism is not an equality movement The objective of modern feminism is to completely absolve women of any accountability
Yeah right no pay gap... all those government studies are fake. Thanks to the Ledbetter bill the gap is closed. In the past women were paid less for the exact job. But one of the things that you will notice is that female dominated professions are usually paid less and they are often the most important jobs… Like teaching
Here's an idea, when women start filling up their fair share of the workplace death gap, then we'll talk about getting rid of the pay gap. Men suffer over 90% of all work-related fatalities, because men work the dangerous jobs, and they're(rightfully) compensated for the risks they take. So if you want to create your scary salary-equal matriarchy, then stop complaining from your cozy little cubicle, and get out there on the deck of a fishing boat in the Bering Sea and be the bogeywoman.
None of those studies show a gender pay gap for the same job performed, because it is against federal law to pay people differently for the same job based on gender. Important is subjective. People are paid what their labor is worth. Women CHOOSE careers that pay less for their labor than do men.
And those dangerous jobs that men work pay very well. Perhaps we should penalize educated men too because they don’t take those jobs. And by the way women do take some of those jobs but physically it’s more challenging for a woman or a small man. But one of my problems is you believe that these dangerous jobs are worth double what a woman’s job which is usually teaching or nursing Why don’t more men go into educating our future adults and why don’t more men go into working with medical issues people in hospitals? I guess in your world might makes right. Also know that construction jobs banned women. By the way most women don’t want those jobs and most men I know don’t want those jobs. Me know the risk of those jobs and they choose to take them, why would women want to do that?
You’re missing the whole point ..you’re saying that women choose the careers that pay less and I’m telling you that historically women’s careers paid less because they were female dominated. I will give you an example with nurses. Women were the nurses, so you didn’t have to pay them well . The same women are now going to medical schools and becoming doctors and there is a nursing shortage and guess what? The salary is spiking. Women didn’t have the options to go into male dominated profession. What Could be more important than the person educating your child? But who were the teachers? Females !so you could pay them less because they didn’t have the options.i Keynote to teachers And more and more of them all leaving and going into bed of paying professions. As a result we have a teaching shortage and I can guarantee you that the salaries will soon go off and you will have more men in the profession.
Women would want to do that, because those jobs pay more. See? That's how you eliminate the pay gap, you work jobs that pay more. It ain't rocket surgery.
It isn’t rocket science, (never heard of rocket surgery, ) that female dominated profession are paid less.Why should a woman want to do some dangerous physical labor that doesn’t require intelligence over educating the children of country?why Should working a machine be more important? That’s why female dominated professions are starting to pay more and at the same time they are losing these professionals for higher-paying professional jobs
Because women should want to make more money. That's what the whole kerfuffle about the wage gap is all about, right? Women wanting to make more money? Nobody said it was more important. It's just a more physically-difficult and dangerous job, so it pays more than a job in an air-conditioned cubicle. That didn't make sense.
I should have encouraged my husband who was a bond trader on Wall Street that he should’ve taken a more difficult job rather than work in this air-conditioned cubicle. Oh wait he made more money. But then again there was his wife who taught in a school that was not air-conditioned and it may not have been physically more difficult but the responsibility and the importance of it was. I bet you think doctors and lawyers should get paid less than a guy who works a machine. Hey why doesn’t the guy work in an air-conditioned cubicle? Yes women want to make more money but why the hell should they want to work a dangerous machine? I guess to you that’s more important than being educated and using your brain Sorry about the last part. What I was saying is that professions that were female dominated like teaching in nursing and secretarial are losing good people because they are going into higher paying jobs that get more respect
More women choose to stay at home, take less risking jobs that compensate with benefits, take more vacation days and pass on overtime generally.
You’re missing what I keep pointing out. Women are now gaining more options and are being paid more equally to men in high-paying professions....in the past women were denied access to these professions. Empowerment is a great tool. Coal miners made more than teachers..who was smarter?
This brings me right round to my original point and why I made this thread. If women now have the potential to earn as much as men. It would make sense to award stay at home dad's just as much privileges, entitlements and support as mothers. That way couple can make informed decisions who should stay at home and take care of the baby/child. I don't believe the system/society should be set up to only support stay at home mums. Patents entitlements should be standardised across the board.
It's easier to claim you are being treated unfairly than to have to accept that there is no discrimination in 2019 and that women just make different choices and have to work a bit harder like men. But by all means, I enjoy your soapbox opera of your idea of oppression
How many women are coal miners compared to how many men are coal minors? Men have always done the dangerous, dirty, difficult, grueling, disgusting, demeaning work that makes civilization possible. 27% of congress are women. However, 99.9% of garbage collectors are men. If Feminism is an equality movement then Feminists would be working on more women working in those jobs, not just the prestigious jobs but Feminism is not an equality movement.
The gender pay gap is the result of choice, not discrimination Why do you so desperately want women to be discriminated against??? You would think Feminists would be happy to know that the pay gap is the result of choice, not discrimination and the pay gap would be resolved if women simply made better choices and worked harder.
