FLAT EARTH RANT #3 Wake Up People!

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  1. jrr777

    jrr777 Well-Known Member

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    You seen Flat Earth Rant and then proceeded to click on it. Yet you care the category in which it's in? Is this elementary? I have no problem with posting this in the conspiracy category and I apologize that it offended you. I do find it strange that you would care so strongly about such an act, it's comical.
     
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    I'm going to go out on a limb here, but I'd bet that map of the eclipse path didn't come from a FE site. (lol)
     
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    Well you sure did go out on the limb. Every map is a flat earth map. It's admittedly wrapped around a ball. You can get down from that limb now.

    Did you watch any of the vids?
     
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    I see. So when you look out and don't see anything between your eyes and your monitor, you conclude that air is empty and there is no oxygen (or other elements) in it, right?

    And because you don't see anything pulling you down, you conclude there is no gravity, and we are magically held to the earth, right?

    I'll tell you want my eyes tell me. When I travelled north and south, I see that the star Polaris is always in geometric position in the sky relative to my latitude. When I am in Miami, it is about 25* above the horizon. When I am in Boston, Polaris is about 40* above the horizon. At 10* longitude, Polaris is 10* above the horizon. When I am south of the Equator, I cannot see it at all.

    That tells me I am on a sphere and Polaris is almost directly above the pole. What does it tell you?

    My eyes tell me that the stars do not circle around the earth, but they circle around Polaris. That tells me that the stars do not circle around the Earth, but that the Earth is spinning. What does it tell you?

    My eyes tell me that when I see a large ship several miles away, I cannot see the lower part of the hull. That tells me there is curvature on the horizon. What does it tell you?

    And I see thousands of photographs taken by hundreds of astronauts and pilots showing the curvature of the Earth, and that is a sphere. What does it tell you?

    You act as if you are ignorant that the Earth is a sphere and that it is not the center of the universe.

    The fact that the Earth is a sphere is not based on circumstantial evidence at all.
     
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    Oh, so you seen in it in it's entirety yourself have you?
     
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    Trolling is the real term.
     
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    Look gravity is a theory, and it is not needed whatsoever. We have pressure (which can only be if contained), buoyancy, density, and electromagnetism (is everywhere). If it is more dense than the air or it's surroundings, than it falls. If it is less dense than the air or surroundings than it rises. No need for gravity whatsoever.

    Your description of Polaris is accurate, and seems to point to a ball, but that's not the case. For there are far more overriding evidences that suggest it cannot be a ball. Again, circumstantial.

    You think your spinning at 1,040 mph because of the view you receive of Polaris? Why is it you don't feel that 1,040 mph? Yet when on a mary-go-round you cannot even stay on at 20 mph, oh and neither can water. You really think your spinning at faster than the speed of sound, because of Polaris?

    The boat over the horizon. So your saying that when the ship disappears it's going over the ball. Yet when zooming back in on it, it comes in full, hull and all. Also, if the curve starts where the ship disappears, one should not have to go very high at all to start seeing the curve. Yet at 120,000ft it still appears flat. How could that be if the disappearance of the ship is just 3.5 miles away, due to the curve (ball). Also, if it's 3.5 miles that the curve starts while looking straight ahead, then you double that distance from your right to left, and yet no curve. 3.5 miles to your right, 3.5 miles to your left for a total of 7 miles, perfectly flat, yet the boat disappears over the alleged curve.

    Ask questions, and ask with boldness.
     
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    The OP needs to get a serious infraction for again putting a thread in the wrong forum. Again and again.
    They have a nutter forum for a reason.
     
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    No, why would you say such a silly thing? Other than to dodge my questions as usual.

    Here's what I said I have seen:

    I'll tell you want my eyes tell me. When I travelled north and south, I see that the star Polaris is always in geometric position in the sky relative to my latitude. When I am in Miami, it is about 25* above the horizon. When I am in Boston, Polaris is about 40* above the horizon. At 10* longitude, Polaris is 10* above the horizon. When I am south of the Equator, I cannot see it at all.

    That tells me I am on a sphere and Polaris is almost directly above the pole. What does it tell you?

    My eyes tell me that the stars do not circle around the earth, but they circle around Polaris. That tells me that the stars do not circle around the Earth, but that the Earth is spinning. What does it tell you?

    My eyes tell me that when I see a large ship several miles away, I cannot see the lower part of the hull. That tells me there is curvature on the horizon. What does it tell you?

    And I see thousands of photographs taken by hundreds of astronauts and pilots showing the curvature of the Earth, and that is a sphere. What does it tell you?

    Maybe this time you'll actually address the questions?

    Given your history, probably not.
     
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    Oh, I see. And your eyes can see this "pressure, buoyancy, density and eloctromagnetism, is that what you're saying?

    Because it sounds like you're saying that if your eyes don't perceive it, you don't believe it.

    OK, so what else could possibly explain it?

    No. What did I write you got that from?

    Because things relative to me are moving at the same speed. Same reason you don't feel the 500 MPH when you are in a plane if you're not looking out the window.

    No. What did I write you got that from?

    Absolutely false. Did your eyes tell you that, or one of your silly "CGI" internet videos?

    Absolutely false. Did your eyes tell you that, or one of your silly "CGI" internet videos?

    Depends on the size of a boat. A large ship is visible much more than 3.5 miles away.

    So why do you dodge question, and dodge with regularity?

    My eyes tell me that the stars do not circle around the earth, but they circle around Polaris. That tells me that the stars do not circle around the Earth, but that the Earth is spinning. What does it tell you?

    And I see thousands of photographs taken by hundreds of astronauts and pilots showing the curvature of the Earth, and that is a sphere. What does it tell you?
     
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    So you ask me to address your questions, I can give 2 to 3 hr videos that address them all, yet you choose not to watch them. So why would I do such a thing, when you are doing exactly what your accusing me of.





     
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    Why are you relying on "CGI" internet videos when you've claimed over and over "CGI" photos and videos aren't reliable?

    I can give you hundreds of photos and videos proving the Earth is a sphere, but you choose not to watch them.

    So I have given you proof that the Earth is a sphere you can observe with your own eyes, and you give me ... "CGI" internet videos?
     
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    I'm interested in the Tesla one, because he's the darling of the FE crowd. This mystifies me, because AFAIK, he never said he thought the Earth was flat. I'll check it out.

    But where can I find the FE predictions on eclipses? What's the math behind it? Who's the Copernicus, Kepler, and Newton of the FE? If your FE model predicts more accurately than timeanddate.com, I'll switch sides.
     
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    Any long distance pilot will tell you that if he does not allow for the curvature of the earth and set his calculations and instruments to take this into account, it would probably become another piece of junk in space - well not quite - and he and his passengers would be dead before that.
     
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    All long distance pilots are all part of the massive, worldwide, centuries long secret conspiracy to fool us into thinking the world is round so they can further their evil plan to RULE THE WORLD!

    It's like the Illuminati. They should make a movie about it.
     
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    Now that is disappointing. When I flew to Singapore the horizon over the Indian Ocean sure looked curved to me. Dear, dear. I must be going 'loopy' ('daft' in the UK). Can you go loopy on a flat surface?;)
     
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    As this thread attests, apparently so!
     
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    That book sounds great!
     
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    I watched the Tesla one, it was unbearably stupid. What little it said of him was he foresaw cellphones, nothing about FE. He's like a god to the FE crowd, what's the story? I'm not seeing the connection.

    How's the FE eclipse prediction coming? (lol)
     
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    Tesla thought of gravity as a joke. The following quote somewhat pertains to that. However I will provide a link for greater insight.

    "Todays scientist have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, eventually building a structure that has nothing to do with reality". -Nikola Tesla-

    https://www.quora.com/What-was-Tesl...ns-theory-of-relativity-and-quantum-mechanics
     
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    From the link:
    Okay, so Tesla made some unsupported claims. The FE crowd does the same thing, is that his charm? I think I'm getting it now. Tesla disputed Einstein, therefore he disputed gravity, a central theme from the FE? But this is not true, Tesla did not dispute gravity, he had his own theory which he kept to himself. You FE guys don't have Tesla on your side in your war against gravity.

    Until there's a FE eclipse prediction that's more accurate than today's model, you guys are out to lunch. And Saint Tesla is not on your team.
     
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    There is a difference between CGI videos and pictures, and just videos. The videos in which I watch and participate have people doing actual real experiments.....you know "science".

    This will take about 45 min of your time, let me know if anything he says, you your self can debunk, with experiments that you yourself can confirm. You know, without relying on others, the experiments they do, in which you cannot do.

     
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    I made it to 1:23 before being overcome by the torrent of insults and comic-book "science". It might be fun to make garbage like that, and amuse the FE crowd, but how can you point to this video as making a case for FE? It's unwatchable. Do you have any videos made by & for adults?
     

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