florida man loses election to congress by yuuuuge margin

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  1. Rampart

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    refuses to concede citing "irregularities."

    • Republican Jason Mariner has not conceded in Florida's 20th District special election House race.
    • Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick, a progressive Democrat, beat Mariner in a 79%-20% landslide.
    • Mariner filed a lawsuit before the election had been called, only telling CBS Miami that "stuff" had been "discovered."
    our new progressive congresscritter will probably be joining the progressive caucus and the ever growing "squad." she replaces the recently deceased alcee hastings.

    will mariner, who lost by 30,000 votes (in a 40,000 vote election) , be hiring powerful lawyers like rudy to argue his case ?

    the $millions required for a campaign are no longer enough. more millions are now needed to challenge (or defend) each election in court. america's donor class should be very pleased with this situation.


    Fla. Republican Who Lost US House Election in Landslide Won't Concede (businessinsider.com)
     
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    It's the new republican motto. If you lose, whine about fraud.
     
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    Can you blame them? They spend 3 years hearing about how the 2016 election was fraudulent, every minute of every hour of every day from every corner of the MSM, social media, and entertainment. That lie conned hundreds of millions of people and worked so well it managed to produced TWO impeachments. That was the mother of all power plays. Are you really surprised to see other people trying to run it?
     
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    This is just the beginning. Last night, while watching football, there were a couple of commercials on for regional House GOP hopefuls. They sound like mini Trumps. They talk about socialism and how they'll take the country back.

    I've said this before. The Trump tactics are trickling down to the local level of political races. Be prepared for tons of GOP Trump wannabees fail to concede elections, or even try to steal elections by using the courts, or by pressuring election board members to "find" votes for them. Trump made all these kind of behaviors, which would have been unthinkable before, perfectly fine. It's only winning that counts, right?
     
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    I was unaware that Stacey Abrams had became a Republican when did this happen?
     
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    One can almost hear Hillary laughing at the irony....
     
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    All the progressives come from "heavily democratic" districts. They wouldn't win in other districts. I can't imagine why the loser was surprised. He should have expected it and moved on. It is all just the normal ugliness of politics.
     
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    i am not a fan of the "black majority districts." i live in one. it may have served a purpose immediately after voting rights were passed, but 50 years later, in a state that is now mostly republican, our district serves the purpose of their gerrymandering. .
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly. Drawing a gerrymandered district with a lot of assumed Dem voters makes it easier for Repubs to win other districts.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But that's the point, it isn't. It's the POT's new MO. Undermine the legitimacy of the election of Dems by claiming fraud. In so doing undermine elections..........unless a Repub wins........cuz that must be legit.
     
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    You mean unless you’re Stacey Abrams. So what are your thoughts on Abrams declaring the election was stolen from her and refusing to concede?
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    False equivalence noted.

    "First and foremost, he's never listened to what I said," Abrams said of Raffensperger's argument. "I said that the election was stolen from Georgia voters because, under the previous secretary of state, Brian Kemp, millions of voters were — 1.4 million voters were purged from the rolls, thousands of voters were denied the right to vote because of [voter registration processes]."

    Abrams went on to reject any comparison between herself and the president, who she argued was working to disqualify voters from having their voices heard. Her own efforts, she argued, were centered around voter registration efforts in Georgia and fighting against Republican efforts to purge voter rolls.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...comparison-between-her-refusal-to-concede-and
     
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    Then why are you celebrating a black majority district electing a Democrat to replace a dead corrupt Democrat? There is no such thing as a majority black district that would elect a Republican. The new Democrat is going to have to work very hard to be as corrupt as the dead Democrat. I am sure Sheila will reach that bar.

    Democrat politicians in majority black districts have the lowest bar for performance of any politician. Their only expectation is to race bait and steal from the public coffers to enrich themselves and their family members. There is a reason that their districts are the most dysfunctional and crime ridden in the nation.... the people they elect.
     
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    That is not what the thread is about......as you know. It's about.........

    • Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick, a progressive Democrat, beat Mariner in a 79%-20% landslide.
    • Mariner filed a lawsuit before the election was called, telling CBS Miami "stuff" was "discovered."
    It's about a growing trend of Repubs refusing to concede elections.

    The Trump Effect: A Florida Republican Who Lost Race by 59% Refuses to Concede

    It has long been a tradition for politicians to concede their race once it was clear they had lost. Donald Trump broke that tradition along with many others. When Republicans lose, they are quick to follow the Trump roadmap and claim election fraud.
    https://hillreporter.com/the-trump-...who-lost-race-by-59-refuses-to-concede-122635
     
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    Politics, as always, is humanity at its worst.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Prove it.
     
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    I agree that both sides fight hard to win elections. It is human nature, ugly as it is.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's just another specious version of "they all do it" which clearly that isn't true.
     
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    That's just another specious version of "they all do it" which clearly that isn't true.
     
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    We disagree. You are partisan and I am not. That is how we come to these conclusions.
     
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    If she won by large of a margin she shouldn’t be scared of him not conceding. Unless there was actually something to find.
     
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    We should be aware that many people run for congress who are not qualified to recognize rain. The next presidential election is just under 2 years away, but the list of people who have already registered to run is well over 50 potential candidates. I didn't see a single name on the list that I could recall ever hearing before. And of course, the list will get longer. Our job is to sort out the wise, honest and competent from the various loose cannons, wackos and misfits on the list.
     
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    Get with the Trump supporters' motto, if a Trump party nominee wins it's legit. If a non Trump party nominee wins, rigged. It's a simple motto, KISS!
     
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    the problem, i'm sure, is not "fear" but the expense of a legal team etc.
     
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    They will not concede. They won't concede close elections and they won't concede landslide elections. That is the plan to overthrow democracy. To cast doubt on even the smallest democratic process. And there will always be dopes, large and small donors on the right to finance this. They have learned how easy it is to separate fools from their hard earned cash.
     
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