Florida now has America's lowest COVID rate. Does Ron DeSantis deserve credit?

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    I suppose it depends on whether the reduction is due (as the article claims) to covid's tendency to 'come and go in waves' or whether FL is achieving herd immunity to delta. ...or if the cited 'wave tendency' itself is just a new variant followed by herd immunity to the variant. Sadly its difficult to know with any and all 'official informatrion' being tuned toward the 'only the vaccine can save you! narrative.

    While it may not (but it also may) be statistically relevent to the population as a whole, FL with its lack of mandates is following a similar trend to the Amish communities around the country which actually had 'spread covid' gatherings instead of trying to mask/distance/vaccinate. The Amish seem to be reaching herd immunity. How Amish Communities Became The First To Achieve "Herd Immunity" From Covid-19 Without Higher Death Rate, Shutdown, Or Vaccines | Video | RealClearPolitics

    ...and, yes, the Amish did still experience a similar per capita death rate as the rest of the nation. But in their words: "It’s a worse thing to quit working than dying. Working is more important than dying."
     
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    I’m quite sure the libs will be. Stopping in to this thread any minute now to give kudos to DeSantis…..any minute now……..any second.
    I mean they sure quickly jumped on him when Florida was high right? So and seconds now…..
     
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    Dr Fauci is unavailable for comment...

    He is watching film of dogs caged and being eaten by insects.....
     
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    I greatly admire DeSantis, but I think it's poor logic to say that such data changed because of him. I've never trusted the data since this whole circus began.

    In truth, I don't know enough about it, but that's OK.

    Some folks say his push for the monoclonal antibodies is responsible. I'm undecided.

    As long as they are using the abused PCR tests, the numbers are virtually meaningless.
     
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    Florida now has America's lowest COVID rate. Does Ron DeSantis deserve credit?

    Nothing government has done has eliminated or even reduced he virus so I would say it is luck or an unusually aged citizenship.
     
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    Credit for only changing how the dead from covid are "reported."
    In mid August he changed how the dead are reported and in only one day Fla weent from over 200 covid deaths per day to less than 10 per day!
    Meanwhile during that same time when DeathSanta was claiming less than 10 covid deaths per day, hospitals were ordering 14 portable morgues!!!!!
     
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    Florida have stopped reporting all deaths and cases
     
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    Lowest, according to who?

    Florida is 7th highest, but numbers are down, which is the case it every State in the nation. Lets hope that was the last "surge". US - Canada border will reopen in in a few weeks, which will let Canadian snow-birds to migrate to Florida again, but Canada Covid situation is not alarming, so it should be a non-issue.
     
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    Should Fauci resign?

    Fauci said FLA would explode, and it did just the opposite....
     
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    Fake news.
     
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    Oh, it exploded all right. We were clocking 27K new cases per day, and nearly 60 000 Floridians are dead. At one point 40% of nations cases were in Florida.
     
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    And the death certificate read...

    Cause of death

    Covid 19. And. Motorcycle crash
     
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    Wow, 60,000 fatal motorcycle crashes!
     
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    Your side has taken everyone who dies and blamed Covid for it.

    Your numbers are bs.
     
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    Why would DeSantis lie about it?
     
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    RDS does not put out those numbers. A health bureaucracy does based on a "test" that is totally unreliable....
     
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    No they haven't.
     
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    Meh.

    ... from other causes.

    Meh.
     
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    DeSantis took a hard look into it and even made come changes to the way they are reported, so the numbers are reported based on his system.

    Anyway, no one is asking you to believe those numbers or any other numbers. Since you don't believe the numbers you have no way of knowing which State is lowest or highest. All you have it "they are all lying about everything".

    Ok, so no one died of Covid. Cool beans.

    What's the point of celebrating low numbers in Florida if the number has always been zero.
     
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    Your side lies about who actually dies of Covid.

    CDC said 94% of the time.....
     
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    Florida Reaches Lowest Case Rate in the Nation.
    “Without mandates or lockdowns, COVID-19 cases in Florida have decreased 90% since August,” said Governor Ron DeSantis. “In addition to cases, hospitalizations have plummeted in our state. This has been accomplished by making monoclonal antibody treatments and vaccines widely available throughout our state while protecting Floridians from government overreach.”

    “In addition to cases, hospitalizations have plummeted in our state. This has been accomplished by making monoclonal antibody treatments and vaccines widely available throughout our state while protecting Floridians from government overreach.”

    Ron DeSantis has emerged as America’s awesome ‘shadow president.’ “Unlike a British shadow government, DeSantis has real executive power of his own — not in the federal government, but in his capacity as governor of America’s third most populous state. And he has been doing an excellent job of drawing contrasts between his way and the approach taken by the Biden-Harris administration.”

    Florida Acquires Monoclonal Antibodies From GlaxoSmithKline After Biden Administration’s Rationing.

    Presidential

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    Without Rights Violating Mask or Vaccine Mandates: Since August:
    • "COVID cases in school-aged children have decreased 87% since schools started; and,
    • Cases in young adults ages 18 to 24 decreased 93%."
     
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    I am not like you. I don't have a side, and you are naive in thinking there is someone with "a side" at every hospital who lie about it for some mysterious reason. Only liars assume everyone around them are also liars.
     
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    As you can clearly see the covid death rate is INCREASING during the time the OP and DeathSanta were LYING that it was decreasing.

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/map/florida

    This data is subject to change.

    Date Fatality rate
    10/26/2021 1.62%
    10/25/2021 1.62%
    10/24/2021 1.62%
    10/23/2021 1.62%
    10/22/2021 1.62%
    10/21/2021 1.62%
    10/20/2021 1.60%
    10/19/2021 1.60%
    10/18/2021 1.61%
    10/17/2021 1.60%
    10/16/2021 1.60%
    10/15/2021 1.60%
    10/14/2021 1.60%
    10/13/2021 1.59%
    10/12/2021 1.59%
    10/11/2021 1.57%
    10/10/2021 1.57%
    10/09/2021 1.57%
    10/08/2021 1.58%
    10/07/2021 1.57%
    10/06/2021 1.55%
    10/05/2021 1.55%
    10/04/2021 1.55%
    10/03/2021 1.55%
    10/02/2021 1.55%
    10/01/2021 1.55%
    09/30/2021 1.54%
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    09/27/2021 1.52%
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    09/22/2021 1.47%
    09/21/2021 1.48%
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    09/19/2021 1.47%
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    09/15/2021 1.42%
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    09/08/2021 1.39%
    09/07/2021 1.40%
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    09/01/2021 1.37%
    08/31/2021 1.37%
    08/30/2021 1.38%
    08/29/2021 1.37%
    08/28/2021 1.38%
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