Florida now has America's lowest COVID rate. Does Ron DeSantis deserve credit?

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  1. FreshAir

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    Florida is proving what all other highly injected populations are proving--more shots lead to more positive tests and sickness, including death.

    I know 8 here in Florida who have died from the shots.

    Ron DeSantis has provided excellent leadership in this screwed up times.
     
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    Bottom line; Human behaviour is the main reason why Florida/USA has a high number of Covid deaths per capita, and for said reason, I no longer praise or critize our Governors.
     
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    Florida is proving that you don't have to shut down or mandate. If people wanna not get vaccinated. That's their own personal choice. If they don't want their kids to wear useless masks at school. That's their own personal choice.

    :)
     
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    correct, just get the vaccine
     
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    Or not.
    It's only one option.

    I don't believe in one-size-fits-all solutions.

    For those who are too lazy to continue to follow other protection measures, taking the vaccine could be their little contribution to society.
     
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    agree, I am pro-Choice too
     
  8. ToughTalk

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    Or don't get the vaccine. The freedom is yours.




    In Florida.
     
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    Some people don't like freedom.
     
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    agree, I am pro-Choice too
     
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    agree, I support the freedom to choose

    My Body, My Choice
     
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    2,803 Covid-coded deaths per 1M pop, and incomparable to other States due the fact Florida Health only reports;

    a. Laboratory Confirmed Covid-Coded Deaths, and
    b. Residents only

    Also, compared to other States, both Red and Blue, what Florida has proven is their number of Non-Resident’s Covid Cases and Deaths don’t add up.
     
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    upload_2021-11-8_9-12-54.png wtf?

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    Does it really need to be pointed out that California doesn't update that metric?
     
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    Lot of States don't because the delta wave is over.
     
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    Maybe they should update their information like the good little woke progressives they are because this virus is serious enough to warrant their authoritarian mandates?
     
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    Why should they? Who is going to test a person to see if they have fully recovered and no longer an active case?
     
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    Good news. Donald Trump's job-killing travel bans are finally being lifted and tourists are allowed back in to grease the economic wheels, which are already turning at good speeds.

    ‘Watershed moment.’ Miami welcomes end of COVID travel restrictions on 33 countries

    Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/tourism-cruises/article255571251.html#storylink=cpy
    Miami’s tourism economy has been slowly recovering since coronavirus lock downs ended, but has been missing a key component: foreign tourists from most of Europe, Brazil, China, India and more. On Monday, Nov. 8, travelers from 33 countries will see U.S. coronavirus travel restrictions lifted for fully vaccinated people — and the optimism and expectations in Miami’s tourism community are high.

    The Trump administration banned non-U.S. citizens from entering starting with China in January 2020, which extended to most of Europe and several other countries in the months to follow. Any non-U.S. citizens who had been in those countries within the past 14 days also were not allowed to come to the U.S.
     
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    Well that's part of how we collect data and trends and a slew of other information...is it not?
     
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    No. It's a pointless metric
     
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    You must have missed the memo from the CDC a few months ago .. The Vax doesn't stop or significantly prevent transmission. Vaxed folks transmit just as easily as unvaxed.
     
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    It does in the first few months after vaccination but its effect drops with time
     
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    Sure, but it rolls off like water off a ducks back, and you won't even notice it, which means it becomes irrelevant.
     
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    No it doesn't .. The Vax gives you a little protection against hospitalization -- does not stop infection or transmission significantly more than an unvaxed. and even that little amount of protection goes away after 3 months.

    This is not a Vaccine .. it is a treatment .. and one that is no better than other treatments.

    There is also a huge problem with things which are not Covid being reported as Covid .. and side effects from the Vax going unreported .. but even with this .. the numbers still show the vax does not significantly prevent transmission.
     
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    No - it does not roll off like water on ducks back .. but regardless .. if it is irrelevant .. then why are vaccines being mandated.
     
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