Florida now has America's lowest COVID rate. Does Ron DeSantis deserve credit?

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  1. Zorro

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    It's all over that they don't really test that much in Florida. Even hospitals got a hard time testing their patients. Testing less, only gives a false impression that it's not that bad. Frankly, it's quiet disturbing when people think the Florida people are special and so simply get that virus far less, when the restrictions imposed are on par / more lenient.


    https://miami.cbslocal.com/2020/09/29/florida-hospitals-grapple-with-lack-of-testing-agents/
     
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    When you don't test the sick to know if they got Covid or not, you end up with sick people who only on paper do not have covid.
    https://miami.cbslocal.com/2020/09/29/florida-hospitals-grapple-with-lack-of-testing-agents/
     
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    Covid tests are available in every pharmacy in Florida, what are you talking about?
     
  5. truth and justice

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    Are they free?
     
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    Well the move to simply let people become infected and get over it is how you reach heard immunity. The vaccine can't do that because it doesn't provide you any immunity. It's really just gene therapy that reduces symptoms.

    So the virus can propagate and spread mostly from vaccinated people this is going to make the virus immune resistant.

    Think antibiotic resistant gonorrhea.
     
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    This is just the rate at which a declaration of death was presumed to be covid. And the more hospitals catch on that they will get Federal money based on how many people they treat with the pandemic. So they have every motivation to assume covid and no requirement to determine.

    So what you're I'm pointing out is a classification increase not a death increase.
     
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    I never paid for them.
     
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    It was a genuine question. In the US can anyone walk into a pharmacy and pick up a free lateral flow test kit? And is it the same in every state? In the UK we can get free kits. And it is our self testing that gives rise to what can be said to be a large number of daily cases.
     
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    Someone else did. You are welcome.

    How could that possibly keep people from getting infected when it is used to treat people who are already sick?

    People in the North are getting sick, and it is speeding South, like Arizona, so to praise DeSantis because Florida is not yet hit is beyond naive.[/QUOTE]
     
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    HOGWASH!
    It is not me pointing out the increase in Fla's covid DEATH RATE it is the Mayo Clinic!
     
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    Yeah they weren't hire numbers of covid deaths because it's better for their bottom line they get Federal money.
     
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    More RUSSIAN propaganda parroted by mindless drones.
     
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    Lol because Russia really cares.
     
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    Yes they really do care, and they have many "useful idiots" on the Right to mindlessly parrot their propaganda.
     
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    Yeah everybody you don't agree with us in league with the Russians.

    Convenient excuse to not make a point. But then again maybe it's just something you tell yourself.

    Dasvidaniya
     
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    What did he actually do to reduce the numbers?

    If he didn't actually do anything - no processes or policies, no action against the virus - then it's dumb luck, or some other factor beyond his control.
     
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    Monoclonal antibodies are used post exposure. This means many exposed individuals receiving antibodies never develop high enough viral load to be contagious. Also, once a person has received antibodies they possess better protection against infection than individuals receiving Pfizer, Moderna, or J&J vaccines. So if they were exposed but not ever infected, the act of receiving monoclonal antibodies was a passive vaccination more effective at preventing infection later on than current approved vaccines.

    Not using monoclonal antibodies as passive vaccines (they have passed phase 3 trials for this use, same as current vaccines in use, and have applied for emergency use authorization but it has not been granted) is a huge blunder by public health officials. They could be used in individuals who are older or immunocompromised who do not develop good immunity from current vaccines. Many breakthrough infections ending up hospitalized and dead could be avoided by using monoclonal antibodies as passive vaccines.
     
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    Are they accurate and reliable is a much better question.
     
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    Yes, they are accurate though you may get some false positives. Any positive result is then confirmed positive or negative by a PCR test. You also don't just take one LFT to confirm a positive
     
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    You might not know this, but the PCR test was not designed or meant for diagnostic purposes. It cannot detect infection.

    All it can detect is DNA fragments. It cannot differentiate between DNA from a live virus or a dead virus. Even CDC acknowledges that anything over about 27 cycles run will produce high rates of false positive.

    Because their government has brainwashed them 24/7 for two years now, most Americans think the tests are reliable. They are not. They are the foundation of the fraud.
     
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    You don't just use one type of test to confirm a positive. You have LFTs, PCRs and the symptoms themselves
     
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    No, you shouldn't use just one type of test. But we have, for about 2 years, on orders from the medical industrial complex and corrupt career bureaucrats like Fauci.

    That doesn't change the fact that the PCR tests have been shoved down our throats and up our noses. It doesn't change the fact that the test is not meant for diagnostic purposes, and it doesn't change the fact that the test cannot detect infection.
     
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    No, only everybody who mindlessly claims doctors classify non covid deaths as covid deaths for money is a RUSSIAN "USEFUL IDIOT"
     
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    Here’s a foolish contradiction;

    I’ve noticed that the same posters who’ve been promoting a 99.5% infection survival rate, thus, “Don’t fall for Covid19 fearmongering”, have also invalidated PCR’s accuracy.

    Thus, my question to them; If PCR tests are inaccurate/obsolete, is your 99.5% infection survival rate accurate?....DUH!
     

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