Florida passed new gun laws

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Ronstar, Mar 7, 2018.

  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't believe they do anything useful which is what the DUKE study found. I also don't believe the federal government's use of the commerce clause is either constitutional from a tenth or second amendment standpoint. Since you want to ban people from owning 11 round magazines (now) or 10 round magazines (soon) your opinion is worthless on the subject since you support an incremental destruction of our right to keep and bear arms
     
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    Once the legal owner of the firearm claims that it was stolen from their possession, law enforcement will have no compelling reason to investigate the matter beyond that, as they will have no grounds for doubting the legitimacy of the claim. It will be the word of the individual with no criminal record, against the word of the prohibited individual found in illegal possession of a firearm, who may or may not have utilized it for the purpose of committing a murder.
     
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    ...and our legal system is built on the concept of "innocent until proven guilty."
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    meanwhile you demand picture IDs for folks to be able to vote and proof of citizenship when they register.

    why don't you simply take people's word for it when they say they are a registered voter and a citizen?
     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    background checks make sure you are a lawful resident of the USA and a US citizen.

    they make sure you have no felony convictions.

    they make sure there are no warrants for your arrest.

    they make sure a judge has never forced you into a mental hospital.



    ...and you oppose this.

    wow, just wow.
     
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    Knee jerk reaction to a tragedy. I gotta give it to them. The anti-gun folks used Rahm Emmanuel's maxim to the fullest in Florida.
     
  7. Vegas giants

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    I know you guys were prefer nothing be done but we are sick of kids being killed in math class
     
  8. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i dont support the age limit.

    if you're old enough to vote and die for this country, you should be able to buy a gun, assuming you can pass a comprehensive background check and gun safety/training course and exam.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    find some proof that this stupid law has decreased violent crime
     
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    Vegas giants Banned

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    You are not being honest. Your support of gun bans is well known. You can deny it but I will call you on it.....every time.
     
  11. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    background checks keep guns out of the hands of folks who do not have the RIGHT to possess guns, or should not possess guns.

    the fact you object to something like a background check to buy a gun, is very disturbing.
     
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    Vegas giants Banned

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    No they are not. What nonsense
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    hundreds of your posts show that you desire to make everyone in the USA suffer the same idiotic laws that citizens of NYC live under. You constantly support those laws and demand the rest of us be subjected to them
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    really-can you find a supreme court case that agrees with you when it comes to merely OWNING a firearm
     
  15. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i oppose several of NYC's gun laws.
     
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    you as usual don't understand State governments have the power to demand background checks.

    I don't think the federal government does. and there is no evidence they have decreased violent crime

    can you PROVE otherwise?
     
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    What you think is not relevant.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    several states require training and an exam for concealed carry.

    never been struck down by the Supreme Court.
     
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    Of course not. Completely constitutional even at the federal level
     
  20. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    background check simply means they make sure you have the legal right to posses a gun, subject to Federal gun laws.

    there is no honest reason to object to such a thing.

    its one thing to object to failures and red tape in the system, that can be corrected, but to object to the mere concept of a background check is very very disturbing.

    without a ****ing background check, convicted felons can buy guns. Folks wanted for murder can buy guns. Folks with a warrant for their arrest can buy guns.

    such a situation would be intolerance and inexcusable in a modern society.
     

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