Florida Teachers Can Now Legally Carry Firearms in Schools

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  1. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Florida has now gotten on board with 30 other states and the District of Columbia allowing specially trained and vetted school employees to carry guns on campus.

    Had this law already been in place in 2015 there was an excellent chance the Parkland shooter Nikolas Cruz would have been stopped by a Coach at MSD, who was trained had a CCL and had a gun in his car, but was forbidden by law to bring that gun into the school.

    Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis signed into law Wednesday, a measure that will allow Florida teachers to carry a firearm in school.

    As it stands, Florida law already requires schools to have at least one armed person on site, which is often a school law enforcement officer. The measure signed by DeSantis expands the eligibility of a so-called guardian program put in place a month after the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, where 17 students and staff were killed.

    https://www.getzone.com/news-florid...4I1DE7SFK4&trk_sid=BH4B10CA9582F3FK4EO44HISGC
     
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    The anti-gun left hates this - it means they will have fewer bodies to stand on and less blood to bathe in as they scream of more gun control laws.
     
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    And I am quite sure they will pollute this thread with the same old worn out rhetoric and anti-gun talking points as to why teachers and other school employees being armed are more dangerous than the school shooters they can stop.

    The anti-gunners need dead children and their blood to promote their lies and falsehoods in order to achieve their end goal of disarming all law abiding citizens of the U.S., period.

    In reality, they care nothing about reducing injuries and deaths caused by the criminal use of guns, because it supports their actual cause and reason for existing and from that being funded by billionaires.

    Just follow the money and it becomes crystal clear where their dark hearts actually are.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Yep, we wait the prediction of blood running in the schools from all the teachers shooting children...a variation of the prediction made of good running in the streets when Florida allow Concealed Carry. Waiting....waiting....[/QUOTE]
     
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    Florida passed CCL and there was supposed to be Wild West shootings on every corner, it didn't happen
    According to the anti's the CCL law would result in Wild West shootings happening on ever street corner, the reality though is crime in Florida went down after CCL was passed and after which the street rats literally went after tourists, who should be unarmed based on the license tags that where issued to rental cars.

    The problem became so serious the Florida Legislature passed a bill which was signed into law that not only changed the types of tags issued to rental cars, they also required rental car companies to remove any decals that might identify a car as a rental.
     
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    If armed faculty and staff go hunting for the bad guy instead of bunkering in their classrooms and offices, why, yes, there will be more dead students.

    And if a LEO comes into a hallway and someone has a weapon, that person will be shot without warning.
     
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    Didn’t know about targeting of tourists; interesting. Should be a message to GCAs, but I am sure they figure a way to ignore the implications and suggest being fair to tourists by advocating to disarm residents.
    I have a Florida CCL, so when I come down, this tourist is armed. My CCLs are good for 40 states, leaving only the Leftist strongholds I have little interest in visiting anyway.
     
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    I am a teacher and there is no way I would carry a gun. And where is your common sense? Do you think a gun shooter gives the teacher time to run and get her a gun? I can just see this scenario. A gun man works on the element of surprise . I can see his response to the teacher and when she says, “can you wait a minute I have to get my gun to shoot you?” Lol
     
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    Why does the state need to operate schools? I thought the purpose of the government was to govern.
     
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    If your gun is not on your person then you aren't carrying it. If it is on your person that gunman is going to be the one surprised when they try to invade your room.
     
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    Great idea, they where bunkering down at Parkland and the shooter was going from room to room shooting students at random.

    Only in Hollywood, in the real world the person with the gun Is ordered to disarm and if they do is then taken into custody, the cops want live suspects, they are a lot easier to interview that way.
     
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    I guess you failed to read the title of the thread, "Florida Teachers Can Now Legally Carry Firearms in Schools," the word carry means to have the gun in your possession, teachers and staff are not allowed to store guns anywhere on campus.

    Not happening, silly notion but not happening.
     
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    You are welcome to be armed in Florida at anytime, if you ever get down to SW Florida stop by and we can go out in the back yard and fire off a few.
     
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    Then perhaps the schools in the united states should simply refrain from employing educators who are clearly as dangerous as mentally disturbed mass murderers.
     
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    Such is ultimately a decision that must be made on the part of yourself. But do not denigrate and oppose those who decide to actually go through with the program.

    Where is the common sense of an educator being forced to use their own body as a physical shield to try and block bullets intended for the students in the classroom, essentially sacrificing their own life for the lives of their students?

    Such is why the educators in the state of Florida are allowed to carry concealed firearms, so they are immediately available.

    For supposedly being an educator in the united states, there is a startling lack of critical thinking skills being demonstrated on the part of yourself in the above post.
     
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    As an existing part of the Guardian program anyone wishing to enter the program must pass a psychological screening and there are teachers who don't pass because they are deemed prone to being violent. Sadly that doesn't disqualify them as teachers.
     
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    It's up to the state. In the case of the State of Florida, the Florida Constitution requires the state to provide public education to all students.
     
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    I would think that the state should govern, not provide educational services. The market is better at providing services than the government is.
     
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    Then find a state with those views. Personally, I've seen the shortcomings of private schools, and don't really believe they do as good of a job with students as they should. The main reason they seem better is that they can kick out students with problems.
     
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    In a school shooting they don't order to disarm. And if you don't think cops don't shoot if they do order to disarm, ask the dead security guard in FL.

    Step down, Well Bonded. I am not saying not to arm teachers, staff, and guardians. I am saying to arm them with common sense safety instructions. Stay in your work areas and classroom. If a gunman enters the classroom with an armed teacher, well, that's what you want.
     
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    That's what they are trained to do, there's too much of a liability to just shoot on sight and in most cases it would be considered a criminal act.

    I believe it was you, not I, who made up the armed teacher in the hallway story, so if anyone needs to step down it is you not I.
     
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    You are wrong, Well Bonded. The cops shoot people wrongly all the time: not criminally but wrongly.

    Yes, you need to step down, because it is a caution to you: if you go out in the hallway with a gun in your hand the cop will shoot before telling your to disarm. Stay in your room or office and protect that space. No one will enter your room or office space without warning except for a shooter, so be ready.
     
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    Yea and a lot of cops are in prison for shooting armed people when they should have not so.

    Bull, your falsely claiming if they see a guy in the hall they can gun him down, sure right, what he is a UC has a badge and is one of them.

    You watch too much TV.
     
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    Now you, Well Bonded, yes, I claimed that, and it's true.

    Now you are moving the goal posts, and that is fine because we can see you doing it.

    Don't make silly claims. I watch little TV, and I do research on topics like this one.
     

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