Food of the United States is a sheer and utter disgrace

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  1. RtWngaFraud

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    There's a whole lot more to Monsanto than you probably know about. They are truly evil walking. They make seeds that don't regenerate, they are GMOing everything under the sun and then they patent it. I think they just sit on the bowl, take a big dump, and mix it up with some mercury, arsenic and monkey balls, ship it to Walmart, and call it "Great Value Processed Human Pre-Eaten food".
     
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    don't forget the pink slime ....
     
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    Yummy!!!! Mercury processed high fructose corn syrup...Yum!! That's a profit maker too!
     
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    The Pink Slime, the RBgh, the Macrophages, the Ammonia - All of which Americans NEVER knew they were eating because the US conveniently redefined the word "ingredient" to exclude things put in via a manufacturing process. Therefore if human (*)(*)(*)(*) is necessary to, for whatever reason, "aid the manufacturing" of the food, not being a part of the - ALTHOUGH THAT MAKES NO €£¥#%^* SENSE it is the US Law - By all means don't label the human (*)(*)(*)(*) as an ingredient.

    LOOK UP MACROPHAGES. They are an FDA Approved unlabeled manufacturing element put on US packaged "luncheon" and fast-food restaurant meat - Because macrophages are like live cultures that eat bacteria - the bacteria on your meat slices - except they are not yogurt or cheese cultures, they are a lab engineered microscopic organism product whose science experiment is YOUR disgusting meat slices. And no labeling is necessary because they don't meet the requirement for "ingredient" even though yogurt clearly identifies its own live culture used.

    It begs the question WHY THE €£¥#%^* ARE JULIEN ASSANGE, BRADLEY MANNING, AND FDA WHISTLE BLOWERS THE ONLY €£¥#%^* SOURCE OF SACRED TRUTH IN THE €£¥#%^* UNITED STATES, AND WHY DOES THE US GOVERNMENT TAKE AWAY YOUR ONLY €£¥#%^* SOURCES OF SALVATION. IF NOBODY EVER TOLD YOU ABOUT IT, YOU WOULD NOT €£¥#%^* KNOW ABOUT IT, AND THE EVIL €£¥#%^* SYSTEM WOULD HAVE NO INCENTIVE TO CHANGE.
     
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    You got it brother. Everybody wonders why people are so obese and new forms of cancer appear almost as often as outsourced workers.
     
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    While I agree with the gist of this thread about all the crap in processed food, it is possible to eat healthy even on a budget. For me the key is to buy a freezer. I know the people that witnessed the birth of all my meat. I met the cow that is in my freezer right now. A lot of the fish I eat I caught myself. You can find organically farmed fish but do the research, As we all know "organic" is just a word. Buying in quantity gets the price to as good as the grocery stores. Even living just outside of Cleveland I eat veggies & fruit grown by and bought from people I know locally or out of my own garden almost all year around. I can't quite make it through winter & early spring but I'm not far off. I have at least 5 places within 1/2 hour of my house where I can get local organic eggs and even more places for honey & dairy. The local produce is generally much cheaper than the grocery store, the eggs and dairy more expensive. The honey is comparable in price but is way better than the stores. My honey lady also always know when and where to get real maple syrup.

    I find the most expensive things to acquire are the basics. Flour, rice & the likes, along with some nuts. But buying in bulk often offsets the extra costs.

    Unfortunately to eat as well as I do takes a little time and planning, it seems many aren't willing to invest that much. It doesn't hurt to like playing in the garden and kitchen either. It's too bad, it's not that hard once you get into a routine.
     
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    Did you know Monsanto owns the majority of the seed supply? Of course, they're genetically modifying them so that they'll produce only one planting...AND....they're selling their GMO corn to Walmart for your consumption...AND...you won't have the choice to pick GMO corn or regular corn. Get ready for a host of new cancers!!! Yum, yum!
     
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    It didn't take long for that old chestnut to appear! Contrary to popular propaganda in the US, the standard of British food is often very, very good, and the UK has a long history of excellent cuisine (some of which has been so adpoted in the US that it's thought of by many as being 'American' - where do you think you got Pie from?!). Of course, there was a severe hiccup particularly around the mid 20th century caused by war shortages and ongoing consequent rationing (coincidentally at a time when there were lots of Americans over here!), but that doesn't mean that was normal!

    Do people really think that Gordon Ramsey exists in a vacuum, and that there are no other quality chefs in the UK, just because they haven't heard of them on the other side of the Atlantic?! He's just one of many top UK chefs, and not really anything special - more famous as a TV personality than a chef.

    In terms of artificial additive reduction and 'natural' foods, the UK is a long way ahead of the US in terms of both availability and public awareness. Of course, we have our processed and mass produced rubbish over here, but nasty things like, for example, artificial processed 'American' cheese (and even more complete nonsense like 'spray cheese'!) are very much the exception rather than the norm.
     
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    So then dude you wanna eat meat with salmonella on it? By the way the seeds don't reproduce because ding bats Like Rifkin et al insisted on it for fear they take over the world and and then and then some new super plant disease would come along and wipe out all our food crops and then we'd starve to death. So they made sure that wouldn't happen as best they could and now the same twits that insisted that it be so now (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) that it is so. Good grief you really can't win with some people. American food supplies are safer now than they've ever been. We live longer than we ever have inspite of the fact that some of us seem to go out of our way to die young.

    More people are dying of concer today primarily because modern medicine means two things:

    !st we detect more cancers.

    2nd at least in the west we aren't dying in huge numbers anymore from bubonic plague, typhus, and diptehria and a host of other bacterial and viral infections that used to kill people in the hundreds of thousands.

    All in all the stress generated by worrying about every (*)(*)(*)(*) thing that goes into your mouth, probably does you as much if not more harm than anyhting you are likely to eat.
     
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    Have you ever even been to America?
     
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    You can thank the government for that. Federal subsidies to giant farming corporations are knocking out competition from farmers who create real food.

    Both Romney and Obama support this. So if you don't vote for someone other than those two clowns, you're completely part of the problem.
     
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    I would assume all the people you know who died of cancer were over age 40. The reason why cancer now kills so many is because people are not dying at a younger age as they naturally did years ago. People are not killed off by typhoid, yellow fever, polio, and tuberculosis thanks to more modern medicine being widely available in the last 50 years.

    Also in the devoloped world, lives are more safe. People now live and work in less dangeous conditions and drive in automobiles built to keep occupants alive. In the past, accidents took a huge toll on human lives. People would be thrown off horses or be trampled by them. A simple cut often caused infections and death. Half the children often died by age five.

    Cancer kills so many now, not so much because of poor diet, lack of exercise and eating non-organic foods, but because the victims should have died of something else earlier on.
     
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    Raw milk, healthy cows. Good stuff. Well, if you aren't lactose intolerant.

    Of course, if our masters in Washington have their way, purchasing raw milk will be a form of domestic terrorism.
     
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    So clue us in. Where is there better food?
     
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    Billy's mother ate McDonald's food while Billy was in the womb, and he came out cross-eyed.

    Billy can't read, or catch a ball.. He can't recognize people easily, or participate in studies.

    Billy's family trusted that magical red and white clown that personified McDonalds as an example of approved children's food, and Billy's family trusted the USDA and FDA to ensure that the basic food stuff of the United States was healthy and fit for repeated consumption by individuals.

    Billy's doctor disagreed. Social workers rejected Billy's diet of McDonald's food and educated him on eating a "healthy diet", one which did not consist solely or primarily of McDonald's food.

    Billy's doctor claimed McDonald's food was "unhealthy", was intended only as a "comfort food"... a "novelty item", and said it was "not intended for repeated eating".

    The United States Government Policy failed Billy's family. While on one hand they are claiming the food is "unhealthy", they also claim there is no proof that it does harm to children. While on the one hand, they demand proof that the food caused the damages, they are also unable to prove that the food is safe for children to consume.

    The News Media, the US Police, the US Government, the USDA, FDA, and Medical Community do not communicate these events to the American Public. Yet millions of people eat these foods and the unhealthiness of the foods is apparent in a statistical social trend that has become impossible to ignore.

    When food-related disease happens to your neighbor, it's an outbreak. When it happens to your family, it's a pandemic... Healing, will begin when the United States Government leaders can take pride in the basic food stuff of their nation and when that food is healthy again.

    You must spread this message to 10 other people on your contacts list. Whether or not you agree that McDonalds food caused Billy's life long condition. We know that it did, because Billy's physiology as an individual is sensitive to the detrimental effects of McDonald's food, and so he would have been as a baby. You can agree that the food should have been normal... For Billy.

    Do not let Billy's life of suffering be in vain.
     
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    Anecdotal evidence proves nothing. Millions and millions eat Mickey D's and have no adverse effects.

    Even if there was a shred of validity to this anecdote 9which I doubt), the exception does not disprove the rule.

    So who has better food?
     
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    Depends on your definition of 'better', and how you look at averages/best/worse in that context, of course. There's plenty of great food in the USA, as there is in most places. There's also plenty of rubbish. The difference in the US seems to be in the public awareness of some of the issues around food processing and additives, and the effective corporate control of legislation which has prevented some ingredients from being properly listed so that consumers actually know what they are choosing (and how 'healthy' it is likely to be). There are a few substances available commonly in food in the US that are banned in other places, but more than that there are lots of foods that sell very well in the US, and are commonly eaten regularly, that just wouldn't sell to consumers in some other places as anything other than a very occasional novelty treat, if that.

    For example, Froot Loops as a breakfast cereal - people here would simply be put off by the artificial colors (it has launched here on a limited basis, apparently, but with those colors removed and replaced by natural substitutes for the UK market) - we just wouldn't feed the stuff to kids. Even McDonalds is different - 'pink slime' isn't considered fit for human consumption over here, so it obviously isn't used in their burgers, but the common thrust of their advertising is also different - much less emphasis on 'fun', much more on 'food quality', 'fresh ingredients', and so on - they know that the market is different here, and that people are much more choosey about what goes into their food (even their junk food). European laws on food additives and the like are stricter in certain cases, but more particularly they tend to be directed towards strict proper labelling to give consumers choice. You won't find GM corn on sale in Europe, for example, unless it is labelled clearly as such, so that consumers can choose for themselves whether to eat it or not.

    It's not that all the food is necessarily 'better', but the people seem to be better informed about what's in it, and what they should and shouldn't be eating on a regular basis, and often tend to be making better choices accordingly (which feeds in to what food stuffs succeed in the marketplace, and what things just don't sell well).
     
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    I wrote my post before the McD's exampel came up, but on that particular example the UK has better quality food and healthier from McDonalds than the US does - they use better quality ingredients here, and significantly less trans fat in the cooking oils.

    ETA - they also use considerable less added salt over here.
     
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    Sometimes you just have to laugh. Cancer rates in America (and in other places the world over) can be attributed to multiple factors, and unhealthy diets are just one of those factors. In fact, within the last decade average lifespan expectancy in America increased from 76.8 years to 77.8 years. This means Americans are living approximately 1 year longer than we did just a decade ago, which is in fairly stark contrast to what has been perceived as America's unhealthy eating habits that lead to diseases. Looking back even further, lets say to the 1940's, life expectancy for Americans has increased from 62.9 years to it's current rate of 77.8 years...thats an average increase of 14.9 extra years of life expectancy in just over 70 years! If Americans are so unhealthy, then just why is the life expectancy rates of your average American increasing steadily every year?

    Cancer and other disease rates are more often influenced by medical and technological advances than anything else. Why do you think the highest rates for some diseases like cancer often appear in countries with the greatest advancements in medical technology? More often than not it's because we are able to screen and detect those diseases faster than countries who have underdeveloped technology that doesn't allow them to detect or even treat those diseases in the first place. Using another example so you can all understand what I mean...why have the number of Autism cases in America increased over the past two decades? Hint...it isn't because of mercury in vaccines or unhealthy eating habits of the parents. It's actually because a new set of diagnostic manuals came out in the early 1990's describing a new set of criteria by which Autism should be diagnosed. You take both population surge and growth into account along with diagnostic and technical advances, and what you actually describe is quite normal rates for diseases across the planet. There are so many factors that come into play here that to simply say "American diets are unhealthy" is not only a false statement, but wholly untrue when looking at multiple data sets.

    In addition, the whole "organic" and "natural" fads aren't exactly what many people think they are. I hope you all realize that just because the label says "natural" or "organic" doesn't mean they don't use pesticides and horomones. What it actually means is that those farmers use natural and organic forms of pesticides and horomones, which are often (if not always) more unhealthy than their synthetic counterparts.
     
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    We have a weekly farmer's market in my town. Fresh fruit and veg straight from the field with no middle-man taking his percentage. It does, however, involve a meticulous bug-hunt in the lettuce and cauliflower8)
     
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    Within the last decade doesn't mean a whole lot - that's, what? Back to 2001? And our life expectancy rates are much, much lower than many countries in Europe or Asia - and obesity rates aren't being factored in either. I mean, the "average" woman in this country is 5'4'' and weighs 170 lbs - and that's just the average, not even including those who we'd consider obese. The average Asian woman of that height weighs only 120 lbs. No wonder Asian and European women are perceived as more attractive.

    Bottom line is that chemical and additive free foods have been proven to work and be healthy for centuries - when you start putting lab-created chemicals into foods, it's basically just a science experiment with humans as the guinea pigs. There's no telling what the results will be, and considering how abysmal the FDA standards are as to what is allowed into food, I trust them about as far as I can throw them.
     
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    There are, as I understand it, some real problem in the US with food labels like 'organic', with some significant loopholes there for large corporations to exploit. I'm not suggeting such regulations are perfect anywhere else, though, nor that they necessarily mean 'organic' food is actually 'better' (or free from anything 'unhealthy'). People should be able to trust the labels, though, so that they can make a properly informed personal choice on the matter.
     
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    The US Pentagon, and the US Government have private farms. They must.

    All natural food is better than unnatural food. Do not fall into the trap of thinking that every country follows the depraved downward spiral of the US exploitative regime.

    In world history food quality reached its peak, and then plummeted as humans selected yield over wield. Splicing and injecting food to survive in a sickly state where upon left to nature it would have opted to die, is a further tyranny that drives impoverishment to the human plate.

    If the animals and vegetables cannot thrive on the nutrients and in the conditions they are grown, neither can the citizens. FEED THEM A HEALTHY HARVEST.

    You ask where is healthy food. I tell you. EVERYWHERE ELSE. You do not believe me? LOOK AT THE PEOPLE WHO EAT THE FOOD IN QUESTION. Statistics do not lie, my friend!
     
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    "...the UK has better quality food..."

    Taxcutter asks:
    So why is it so unpalatable?
     
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    It isn't, despite the silly rumours in the US to the contrary.

    ETA - Ever had an apple pie? That's UK food right there!
     
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