Food of the United States is a sheer and utter disgrace

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  1. Anikdote

    Anikdote Well-Known Member

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    The elimination of lard and it's replacement with sugars and processed vegetables oils is one of the main reasons for the obesity crisis. Lard satisfies and keeps you from being hungry for hours. The crap you get from the frier now gets you hungry in just a short time and the oils are inflaming your arteries, leading to heart disease.

    We'd do well to go back to lard in the friers. Plus, it tastes better so there's no need for sugar to hide the blandness.
     
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    Yup, I try to stay somewhat natural but I like many people have a lifetime of undoing bad habits and that in and of itself is difficult.

    When I say sugar I'm only referring to glucose or fructose.
     
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    That is correct if I cannot cook with olive oil I try to cook with lard. It is a far better cat to cook in then many of the oils, butter, and margerine used in our cooking.
     
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    margarine = plastic.
     
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    So start your own food company and show everyone how it should be done.
     
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    Join a food co-op.
     
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    Already being done son, market forces showing proof positive Americans don't like what is being done to our foods. Bet you never seen this story on the MSM.

    http://www.coopdirectory.org/index.htm#What is a Co-op?

    http://www.coopdirectory.org/
     
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    Our cheese is pretty weak.

    Other than that, you can find good food in America, it just costs more than most people make.
     
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    Well...at least I don't have to get a permit and pay the government to move a pig from place to place.

    And my cattle are grass fed....which is funny because most (if not all ) grain is grass.
     
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    Can someone explain for me again the rational for keeping information from the public about GMO's in our food?

    I mean I was under the impression that one side of the political isle pushed for regulation, and the other disclosure.

    Where is the political party that supports neither regulation or disclosure?
     
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    I greatly and truly wish you will be able to perceive reality.

    There is a systemic corruption in the United States that has permitted corporations to cheat and undercut markets. The United States has DECIDED that artificial syrup shall destroy the natural syrup industry. The United States has DECIDED that Artificial Sweeteners, Laboratory produced HFCS, Depleted flour, Industrial byproducts shall destroy the natural food industry.

    Why... I couldn't cost-compete with Artificial Syrup vendors if I tried, let alone maximize the efficiency of my production. If I cannot develop technologies to produce more GOOD FOOD at cost-capacity, and the Federal Government permits BAD FOOD to undercut and destroy my market, then you have LESS of my product. I cannot produce it and my sales have dried up. I might as well sell HFCS tainted corn syrup with brown coloring and charcoal flavoring. WHY? YOU MADE IT €£¥%^*+ LEGAL. IF YOU LEGALIZE METH THERE WILL BE 100 BUSINESSMEN FORCED TO PUT IT ON A SANDWICH IF THAT IS THE LOWEST COST OPTION. When you let ONE greedy company CHEAT, we all must CHEAT in order to compete.

    Worse yet, the regulations are written by corporations and brutally wielded against small businesses.

    The United States foregone STANDARDS, in favour of GREED. GREED. GREEEEEEED. There is only 1 excuse for their conduct!!! GREEEED!

    I could sell HFCS tainted corn syrup with flavoring if I €£¥#%^* wanted to. There is 1 problem. **I AM ETHICAL**

    I have gone into the US business marked TWO €£¥#%^* TIMES. TWICE! TWICE I TRIED IT! So don't €£¥#%^* tell me I can run a business, because it's a €£¥#%^* LIE. A €£¥#%^* MYTH AND EVIL LIE.

    Now you should be deeply, deeply, deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeply ashamed about your societal condition and your part of it. I demand you to look CLEARLY at the US condition and stop pretending all is well!!
     
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    This is a lie re-enforced by a false narrative.

    As I just showed their is a way for people to fight back against this with Food coop's

    Just as there are all kinds of action groups to get money and lobbying out of politics which the vast majority of Americans support.

    It is simply a matter of enough people making the decision to be responsible for themselves, and create a culture of engagement, instead of playing the role of victims.
     
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    Corn syrup is cheap...cane and sorghum are expensive...and maple syrup is outrageous....and its all sugar.
     
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    That's a prime illustration of the effect of corporatism, and the power held over political parties and government officials by corporate lobbyists.

    Having neither regulation nor disclosure only makes rational sense to those who will profit from it, and that certainly isn't the public.
     
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    It's only so comparatively cheap because of the protectionist policies put in place to deliberately make cane sugar artificially expensive (twice the price in the US as in the rest of the world, as I understand it) - see note above about corporate interests and the power of corporate lobbying.
     
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    It is made of 100% beef it's just processed into fine fibers. Hamburger is processed beef as well. Nothing new here. Prove that either McDonalds or Jack in the Box are lying otherwise you have no basis for your claim.
     
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    Yep wild oats, wild wheat varieties as well. Plus, most folks don't understand that horses seed their own pastures with their manure. Pasture cycling and supplementing pastures is pretty typical. "Grain fed" usually means cattle are fed corn for a time before being slaughtered in the US. I think the UK uses barley.
     
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    it's also treated with amonia. That is what most people don't like. It's sorta ironic since no one ever compalins with all of the chemicals added to most meat. It's just the way the stuff looks that has their panties in a bunch.
     
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    Its also treated with ammonia because its not fit for human consumption without it.
     
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    I can't make money the way i would like to due to regulation. I have to have my meat butchered at a State inspected facility to sell meat in my state. USDA inspection to sell out of State.

    The prices for these facilities are outrageous. So I just sell the animals on the hoof and have a local guy butcher my meat for home consumption.

    I can bring in a pig and have him butchered for about 70 cents a pound (feed prices went up) . To use a State inspected facility would cost about $1.30 a pound and I can't compete even though i can raise them for less.
     
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    It hurts so good! Oh baby, they make it hurt so good.

    Sometimes food don't digest like it should, but they make it....hurt so good.
     
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    I've never been happy with all the restrictions on certain kinds of food, like meat. At least I am allowed to buy my own animal and have it butchered without going through a USDA facility. Every year my family would buy a cow from a local ranch and take it to a local butcher for processing. We'd divide up the results between a few of our households so everyone would have inexpensive beef. It worked well for us.

    What really bugs me is the fact that I can't legally buy unpasteurized milk or milk products from anyone. I used to drink it fresh from the cow when I worked at a dairy farm, the owner would even let me take some home every now and then, but he couldn't legally sell it to me.

    I should be able to legally buy uninspected or unprocessed food if I so desire - as long as I know that what I'm buying hasn't been processed. I shouldn't be forced to buy processed, irradiated or pasteurized food if I choose not to.
     
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    "Ammonia is essential for life. This naturally occurring substance is found in virtually all life forms, from plants to animals to humans. Life could not have evolved and cannot survive without it. Ammonia, in the form of ammonium hydroxide, is naturally found in beef, other proteins, and virtually all foods. It is widely used in the processing of numerous foods, such as baked goods, cheeses, gelatins, chocolate, caramels, and puddings."

    Watch the video. Ammonium hydroxide kills ecoli and the levels of it are safe for human consumption. In fact most foods have it in them NATURALLY. You are going to die a lot faster from E-Coli tainted food than a little bit of ammonium hydroxide.

    http://www.beefisbeef.com/2012/03/09/why-is-ammonia-used-in-some-foods-2/
     
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