For the Swamp act !

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  1. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Democrats could not help themselves.They are Literally
    Proving who and what they are.With the Passage { 220-210 }
    of their H.R. 1 { For the People Act } on Wednesday the 3rd { Tink Turd }
    day of March." It requires states to restore the ability of Felons to
    Vote the moment they are they're out of prison,Regardless of uncompleted
    parole,probation, or restitution requirements. "
    I say this act of drafting and then voting This Obviously Insane Bill
    is the utmost proof as to what this Democrat Party is up to.
    First it was Controlling the Language,and then Controlling our freedom
    of Movement { Lockdowns } and then now this.Before long These Unamerican
    AS IT GETS Democrats will see fit to Control one's mind.Like what Public
    Education is hellbent to accomplish.They couldn't make it happen with
    Global Warming,and then Climate Change so why not Go Full Stalinism.
    A total elimination of Voter I.D. no matter the state.
    I believe every Industrialized country has some form of Voter I.D.


    There is Truth and there is Untruth.Power is tearing human minds
    apart and putting them back together in new shapes of our own
    choosing.
    " If you want a vision of the future,Winston, imagine a boot

    stamping on a human face forever " -- { 1984 }
     
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    Allowing people to vote is unAmerican. Stalinist commie authoritarian bullpucky.

    Is that the gist of your argument?
     
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    Democrats love them some authoritarianism. It compensates for their lack of actual physical prowess.....
     
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    This "For the Swamp Act" also apparently prevents States from requiring voter ID. Apparently it is not American, or should I say no longer American, to ensure that only citizens vote.
     
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    And yet the GOP yesterday told the SCOTUS they were the aggrieved party of voting laws because they are at a competitive disadvantage when more people vote.

    States are doing all they can to ensure that voting is as hard as possible to keep the number of votes to a minimum.

    Which is why a law like this is necessary.
     
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    Non-citizens aren't allowed to register.

    Voter ID is a red herring. I have no problem with it, as long as the state accepts the responsibility of providing the ID. Give it to people when they register, free of charge.

    It's a red herring because election security can be and is achieved without the need for photo ID. People rarely require ID in their daily lives. Unless you look under 21, adults go about their business using PINs. Four digit PINs (like the last four of our SSN) are secure. That's all we need to tie a name to the person voting.

    Beyond that, the idea that a secret cabal can accomplish massive voter fraud without detection is no different than the idea that limiting magazine capacity will prevent gun violence. Both ideas are wrong, and legislation addressing these wrongheaded ideas is window dressing.
     
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    What is needed is some way to 100% guarantee that every vote cast was done so legally, that the results have been tabulated 100% accurately, and that every election can be audited transparently all the way back to individual votes cast and who cast them. There is nothing in this bill that does any of that. Until these things happen (i.e. never) election results will remain untrustworthy and questionable.
     
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    Methods for audits and recounts are already in place and were used extensively in 2020.
     
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    THE Most Blatant Unamerican Law ever written in the United States
    let alone passed.But the Senate hurdle will be hard to overcome.
    But when " THEY " are coming for you ... Ya best pay attention.
    A new form of Cognitive Dissonance has formed.Taking the mere
    thought of being a Hypocrite to newer and more elevated levels
    of how to be a Traitor and Not Notice ... let alone care.
     
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    The fact is the Swamp act also allows voter registration immediately before an election. This act is carefully engineered to allow non-citizens to vote. But if you disagree, please explain how illegals will be prevented from voting with no ID required, mail in ballots, and registration one day in advance?
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An Intelligent,civilized and honest citizen could tell ya to
    Back Off and prove it.But then why bother.Democrats gave up a long time
    ago about being honest,fair and American.
    The Democrat and their benefactors are now in full Take Charge
    mode.Think Bull Connor.After his sweet Mom passed away.He no longer
    had any use for his Conscience.In fact,just the opposite.
    With what little I.Q. he did possess he felt it mandatory to bully
    his own conscience into submission. Nothing else short of Being
    Possessed by the Devil can explain a Nancy Pelosi.
    Our Country will be run by those Possessed.
    Real Kitschy ... huh.Now repeat after me ...
    Like Totally ... fer sure.
     
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    This bill might be what gets rid of the filibuster for good.
     
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    What is required for voter registration?
     
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    Even the most sheltered individuals with little more than a grade school
    education can see the writing on the wall.Smell the Coffee.
    Which would kinda make it impossible to implement this Craziness.
    Most convicted Felons and quite short on education.As out most
    Illegals flooding our Borders.
    Which Should beg the question { maybe once upon a time }
    Why is Nancy Pelosi and her Democrats toying around with this.
    Do they think it will make them Popular.Or merely Stars.
    You know like Being a Kitsch Villain has been changed around.
    Like The slate of movie superheroes of late.
    They are no longer Moral,upstanding or Patriotic.
    Like Roy Rogers and Trigger.They are now ...
    Or an Audie Murphy.
    They are now ... Begotten.Where Power begets Power.
    That is how those like Mao,Stalin,Hitler and Castro thunk.
    To the virtual chagrin of all in their sphere of influence.
     
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    Non-citizens aren't allowed to register.
     
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    As are most Trump voters. not sure your point.

    Also, why should convicted felons who have paid their debt to society continue to be punished by not being allowed to vote?
     
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    The audits and recounts were conducted by Republicans.
     
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    Republicans that prior to Nov 4th were seen a staunch Trump supporters.
     
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    Per the Wikipedia article on this act, nothing is required other than interaction with a government agency, e.g., getting a motor vehicle license, or things like attending a University. Voters can register within one day, and change their registration at the polls. Voters are to be automatically registered unless they opt out. In other words the purpose of this act is to destroy fair elections in America.
     
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    How does any of this destroy fair elections? I get my drivers license and vehicle registration on the internet. I can get them one day before expiration if I want. What difference does it make whether someone registers one day before an election or 100? What do you mean "change their registration?" Change what? And what's wrong with automatic registration?
     
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    First states { all States } have a responsibility to clean up their
    voter rolls.From those who are no longer alive or living In the state.
    That is what Red States did and the Left { Blue states } accused them
    numerous times { like clockwork } of Voter Suppression.
    That was basically the entire schtick behind Stacy Abrams who to this day
    never formally conceded her 2018 Loss to Brian Kemp.
    I think she found a new approach.To hogtie him in the November 2020 election.
    By publicly shaming him as a " Racist " { very popular Democrat tool to
    slander an adversary } if he dint go out and insist there was a fair election
    in and around Atlanta.The place where Georgia was decided.
     
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    Wikipedia is actually run by contributors who add or delete
    things at their discretion { which almost always has a huge Political
    Bias }.Especially with attributions.I normal American should use Wikipedia
    the same way they should Google.Knowing how Politics is being used in
    all venues today.I mean,probably even the local shoe outlet.
    Where before long Shoe Carnival may be forced to start selling
    Joe from Kokomo Clown Shoes.
     
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    1984 is the future,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four
     
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    Do any of them guarantee that a given ballot was cast legally and allow it to be verified by the citizen who cast it? If I wanted to see the actual ballot I cast, is there any way to do that?
     
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    " Give it to people when they register." Whoa thar Wilbur.Right there is
    an illegality.Person has to prove they are both a citizen and resident
    of the state First.Kinda Jumpin the gun aren't ya palsy.
    That kind of crap was used by Jim Moran's son { Patrick } who
    ran Jim's { a regular on - Hardball - } campaign field office.
    Patrick got a little carried away one day and gave away the Farm.
    Ended up having a phone conversation { Taped } with Project Veritas.
    Explaining in detail how best to Illegally register one to vote.
    Using a Prostitute as an example.
    Need I mention what happened to Father Jim after that broke.
    He was forced to retire as a career Congressman serving from {1991-2015}.
     
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