Medical necessity (for previously unknown physical conditions, and intellectual impairment such as Down Syndrome), rape, and incest. That's enough 'nuance'.
Actually, incest between adults can be entirely consensual. Did the baby do the violating? How is not not an actual life?
This is nonsensical gibberish. What does the "working stock" have to do with abortion ? We have too much "working stock" on this planet .. not too few. If it were not for this massive problem = overpopulation - we would not have the environmental issues that we do. Further - I take it you are for open borders because it increases the "working stock". Nor does this the abortion issue have anything to do with women in the work force - other than with respect to the ability of a woman to have more control of her own financial destiny. Then there is the third stupid argument that is often touted - "eugenics". All of the above arguments are dumb and dumber on steroids.
>>>???? What is the dumb argument you are wanting to make here - one that has refuted numerous times. How long have you been debating this issue - have you no capacity for learning ? Seriously. Good grief.
After you are done reading posts 109 and 110 .. and clicking like on both of them .. reflect on our previous discussions. This Alabama situation is YOUR fault - and the fault of people that think like you .. Full Stop. How many of the inanely bad arguments have been touted on Fox and by the other anti abort pundits on the right have been used as justification for this law ? The main argument being touted is based on the assumed premise fallacy - assuming that a living human exists at 6 weeks. No proof is given - no discussion of the question of personhood .. just stuff like "we have to protect the lives of innocent children" and similar fallacious gibberish. This issue is a human rights issue - not just a women's rights issue. It is about one group of people wanting to force their beliefs on others through physical violence (Law). It is about the complete lack of respect for the principles of justice. Gov't is not supposed to be able to make "Any" law messing with individual liberty (including the liberty of a woman to control her own reproductive process) of its own volition. And this is exactly what is happening. The people of Georgia were not consulted. The Gov't is not supposed to be able to mess with individual liberty on the basis of "Simple majority mandate" - that some politician got elected. The bar is "overwhelming majority" = at least 2/3rds of "we the people". That "by definition" what a constitutional republic is about. Both Classical liberalism and Republicanism refer to 50+1 or Simple majority mandate as "Tyranny of the Majority". The Alabama law is "illegitimate" simply on the basis that it does not have overwhelming approval (at least 2/3rds) of the people of Alabama - never mind the people of the USA. This is about people believing in rights and freedom - only for things they agree with - rather than following the principles of law, justice and the founding principles. And that is exactly what you do.
I would never agree with such and absurd and nonsensical claim. Do you have an argument or are you going to do nothing but continue to build straw men = accusing me of things I neither said nor inferred.
One fact the pro-choice position cannot deny: pregnancy comes from sex It's possible to make the risk of pregnancy very very tiny - if the proper precautions are taken.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Saying women who are raped should be allowed an abortion but not women who had consensual sex looks like somebody wants to punish women for having consensual sex... What TF do you not get about my post ? DUH, whether sex was consensual or not should have NOTHING to do with women' right to have an abortion.
Oh, did you just discover that ! Because everyone else knows that already. Says the science fiction fan who will never have to face an unwanted pregnancy..
Renee said: ↑ Forcing a woman to breed against her will is indeed punishing her. You just reinforced what Renee posted and you don't even know it You just posted that since she had consensual sex she should have to gestate ….YOU just posted that. OR maybe you can explain your statement.....OK, the woman chose to expose herself to the possibility of pregnancy...… but she can still get an abortion, right? (ya, it's a trick question )
FoxHastings said: ↑ FoxHastings said: ↑ Please DO show proof that black women were forced to have abortions... OR don't you think black women have the same rights as white women????? A simple show of proof that black women are FORCED to get abortions as you contend.... If they CHOSE abortion that is their right. Great post BUT UH WHO TF are you posting to.....????? Did you click on the wrong "reply" ??
Sometimes, you just wish there is a frame you can hang these little gems on the wall with..... But alas... The best part is self identifying the post itself in the first sentence. Yes, we can all agree this post is nonsensical gibberish.. And for that, we thank you...
I am posting to you my dear. This Alabama issue has as much to do with control freaks on the left as it does on the right. As soon as I saw this law being enacted - the first thing I thought about was not these nut jobs on the right - it was our conversations with respect to your desire to force another human to be responsible for the financial consequences of the decision of another person with respect to an unintended pregnancy. This is an illegitimate violation of individual liberty, the principles of justice, the rule of law, equal justice and so on. You have no business calling out the religious right for their lack of respect for the above principles, when you yourself do not respect them.
Can you not do any better than to project your issues on to others ? I think you can. There is a difference between calling an argument "nonsensical gibberish" followed by an explanation as to why that argument is nonsensical gibberish. All you are doing is making naked unsupported nonsense claims because you can not refute my arguments against your nonsensical gibberish arguments - and you know it
Oh, your old hobbyhorse...shrug...phffft BTW, I never expressed a ""desire to force another human to be responsible for the financial consequences of the decision of another person with respect to an unintended pregnancy.""....I quoted the law....the law makes men grow up and support their kids..
