Forced sterilizations of Uighurs in Chinese concentration camps

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  1. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    Banning abortion will force some women to gestate.



    Uh, you actually took time to post that? !

    See, to everyone on earth, that's obvious...
     
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    Let’s not forget that the notion of Uighur Lives Matter is a notion completely inconceivable to the Chinese and that Uighurs would envy and gladly trade places with African Americans.
     
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    WHEN WOKE IS A JOKE: Calls Growing for Woke Big-Name Fashion Brands to Stop Profiting Off of Uighur Slave Labor.

    Chinese Communists are the closest analog to Hitler and the Nazis in the world today. While the Left are hysterical about Trump they are downright cozy with Chinese Communist President Xi Jinping the true fascist dictator.

    China Reds can't stand minority Uighurs because they worship Allah and not the Communist Party.
    Business Insider:
    When North Carolina banned boys from girls’ bathrooms, several corporations and states tried to punish the state by not moving headquarters there or refusing to hold concerts and major events. That's more important than profiting from slavery?
     
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    REAL human suffering is not anything Americans are interested in but this fake suffering and the mad rush to achieve the greatest perception of victimization is.
    BLM will evaporate as soon as the next trendy thing comes along.
    Meanwhile the Uighurs will continue to suffer because the perception is that Trump is a racist when it comes to the Chinese. They have become the victims of racism as perceived by the left. Not the Uighurs.
     
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    Clearly they do not come to that position via reason and evidence.
     
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    People don’t care about the millions that die of malaria or of communicable diseases other than covid or about the millions that die of starvation. All they care about are the few that die of c-19 and will shut down entire economies to contain it unless BLM protests are going on so we can’t shut them down?? People seem to be waiting for the next panic and instructions from the media and government and are willing to switch their allegiances on a dime. Oceania is at war with Eurasia. Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia. Then East Asia. That kind of thing.

    It is no wonder that African American kvetching is viewed as a more pressing problem than true slave labor and ethnic suppression that still exists in the world.
     
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    Lets get thing into perspective

    Chinese Persecution of the Muslim Uighurs Could Drive Them to ISIS

    I have though found it interesting people who were shouting for the death of the Uighurs a couple of years ago now concerned if China has a similar idea - or maybe they are not the ones complaining about the possible gencide being committed here.
     
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    If they are as is claimed mass sterilising the women, then occording to what I heard the other night that is genocide.
     
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    I didn't know Denmark was like that. If you have British Citizenship then you also have British Nationality.

    Are you saying you believe that China is deliberately destroying people because of their ethnicity? With respect to both the Uighurs and the Tibetans I had understood that the interest was not ethnicity as in ethnic nationalists wanting to get rid of other ethnicities but the fact that the Tibetans and Uighur want Independence. The deployyment of the Hans being to give Tibet and Xinjiang a more Chinese ethnicity so that they can claim the area is Chinese (in much the same way as Israel is putting feet on the ground in Palestine) but if these people were not wanting Independence I think it is questionable whether China would be acting as she is.

    Tibetans and the Uighur people are not a 'native' part of China. That is why they are wanting their independence.
     
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    The Uighurs are a Turkish tribe. Erdogan's dream is to unite all the Turkish people, as well as those who are culturally Turkish and who converted to Islam under the Ottomans such as the Albanian and Bosnians, into a new Ottoman Empire. To this effect, he and his former PM Devotoglu would go to different nations and arouse the Turkish people living there, and get them to question their borders.

    This is why Merkel a few years back, refused to allow Erdogan to hold a gathering and speak to the Turkish people in Germany.


    Erdogan and the Turkish governments in general, would also transport Turkish people from the Central Asian states into other nations so as to change the demographics for their own territorial reasons. They did it in Syria and are doing it in the islands of the Aegean with the migrants.
     
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    I’m sure that given current political sensitivities, there will be pushback to criticizing China as they are non whites and we need to be accepting that they have different cultural mores. Chinese Lives Matter (Uighurs not so much I guess. It’s a toleration pickle)
     
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    This is none of our business, the west needs to keep their snouts out of Chinese affairs...

    No normal thinking person likes Muslims or the Islamic religion.. Leave China to it...
     
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    I would agree with this as long as it is consistent foreign policy of any nation. People will say yes leave poor embattled and victimized China alone then when you ask them if South Africa during the Apartheid era should have been left alone they say of course not because that was evil. To me human suffering is human suffering so I have trouble with the ambiguities.
     
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    Apartheid was not evil. Most black SA citizens old enough to remember it, admit life was better under Apartheid...

    It didn't take long for the usual culprits, the Jews to show their faces as soon as Apartheid ended and take key Gov jobs in SA... All part of their plan..
     
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    I do not know if China is mass sterilising the women but if she is it is genocide. I have heard there has been I think it was as much as an 83% reduction of Uighurs in Xinjiang in the last few years. If this is true, this is a crime against humanity and should be brought up and properly dealt with by the UN.

    I 100% do not support the US and UK going in claiming to have a few of the willing to try to start WW3 because capitalism is having its little problems again and they do not want to look at the climate situation.

    I do know that they were bringing the Hans in and rebuilding the area and making it extremely difficult for the Uighurs as I have watched documentaries on that but because the US makes things like this up, I cannot be sure if what it says is true.... but if it is, it is extremely serious and the UN should be shouting about it and getting something done.
     
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    It’s one of those China is pretty strong so let’s concentrate on weaker countries to scold things for the UN. IMO
     
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    The US gets let off in the same way.
     
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    Sadly I agree!
     
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    If the UN wants to become effective it needs to get rid of the Permanent Members of the Security Council.
     
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    Interesting idea and maybe voting power should be proportional to population.
     
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    Conservatives want to separate politically and economically from China so their behavior doesn't directly affect us.
     
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    I am not sure about that. I suspect all States ought to have equal power but it certainly needs more democratisiation and ending the privaleges of the permanent security council would go some way to that..
     
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    I mostly agree
     
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    dems want that too, we also want India to stop steal all out tech jobs

    the right demands corps be allowed to use cheap labor with no tax penalties
     
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