Forget NFL, it's college football time!!!!!!!!

Aside from the fact the Heisman is the most over-rated award in collegiate sports, and is pretty much....a joke...

Football is a team sport for one thing, and a QB is as good as his offensive line. The fact there are so many former Heisman winners who were complete busts in the professional ranks is proof of that...

8 out of 77 have made the NFL Hall of Fame, not great odds considerng the Heisman is supposed to be representing the best collegiate player. Wouldn't this transfer to success in the NFL?

More often than not, it doesn't.

Eric Couch of Nebraska ring a bell?
Yep...a Heisman winner (2001)

You never heard of him because he's completely out of football now after a "stellar" NFL career playing one complete game.

Does the Heisman even represent character for winners who actually go on to successful NFL careers?

You be the judge...
another former Heisman winner, the one and only OJ Simpson .a truly honorable man as we all know.

 

FSU's first, didn't even play pro football, he went to the NBA (a very smart move on his part as he had a longer career, and his quality of life after professional sports will be much higher than had he been taking blindside sacks from the likes of players like Ray Lewis, etc)

I'm not an NFL fan.... I'm a college fan.... I see your point... I just don't care. FSU's 2 Heisman winners were busts.... kinda....

Chris Wienke had a 12 year career in the NFL, all with Carolina..... 11 were as backup. now, he's the QB coach. Is a 12 year career really a bust? I mean, he's no Peyton Manning, who lost the Heisman two times to people no longer in the NFL. He has parlayed his Heisman into a pretty significant NFL career.... is he really a bust?

I know who he is... but I agree with your point....

agree again.... also see Reggie Bush


But as the best college player.... (not who they think will be the best success in the pros), is there really anyone who competes with Jameis right now? One thing I like about him, is he does give credit to his team and OL when he does well in interviews. The big nasties up front are KEY to a successful qb and rb.

 

The QB and running backs get all the consideration with no regard to defensive players, has a defensive player ever won the Heisman?

Charles Woodson, who went on to a solid NFL career.

 

I was going to say, you answered your own question....


FSU had a player..,. Lamarcus Joiner.... that, if they gave him some reps as a reciever.... he would have been in the talks as a Heisman finalist.


He's a defensive "swiss army knife" of utility and good.

With FSU having a heisman finalist and potential winner already.... I'm glad the coaches have only kept Joiner on Defense. Joiner could be the Ralph Nader of the Heisman voting if he were a dual threat candidate, like Woodson was

 

Mack Brown...

Orangebloods.com and Dallas Morning News Sports have reports that Mack Brown is stepping down

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/co...n-will-step-down-as-texas-longhorns-coach.ece

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1585894

Houston Chronicle says Brown denies...

http://blog.chron.com/sportsupdate/...-stepping-down-at-texas/?cmpid=bna#15450101=0

 

I figure Mac is in coaching limbo while TX waits to see what Nick Saben is doing.... I'm sure I'll end up wrong, but I expect whenever we have an announcement from Saben, whether he's returning to Bama or going to TX will preclude TX announcement of Mac Brown....

 

Chatter is getting intense...

 

I saw that chatter too....

I saw FSU locked down Jimbo Fisher for 5 years right before the ACC championship... lol.... I'm sure his rate would have gone up after Jan 6, so FSU had incentive to get the contract signed prior to the title game.

 

At the end of the day, it will be Terry Saban making the decision whether to go to Texas or not.

 

Wonder is Ms. Saban has any comment on this...

http://www.kvet.com/pages/bamarobandheather.html?article=11891091

...though I would - as a precaution - take the report with a slight bent to an amusement.

Also to report....

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/story/24188321/inside-texas-football-mack-brown-stepping-down

 

There are conflicting reports all over the place. I've even heard that Saban will just resign and join the crew at ESPN. I guess we won't know anything until it truly happens.

 

Im hearing that Texas and the Texans are looking to land Saben.

I think it will be the Texans. He wants to win in thr NFL.

Few of ybr NFLs best coaches were successful their first go around. And its hard comming I from college.

NFL is a lot more like high school than it is college. You dont get to recruit sll your guys. The GM puts together a team and that is what you have to work with cant be a rigid system guy in the NFL like college because your personell is too much out of your control. You have to mold your system to the personell. See Monty Kiffin trying yo run his Tampa 2 without a solid 3 tech, will LB, or strong safety.

 

he has an extension offer on his desk at Bama, but he hasn't signed it yet... making bamanation nervous.


Don't worry, I'm sure they could get Don Shula's son back again... bwahahahahaha

 

So much for all the insider gossip.

 

yeah, I saw he signed a pretty sweet deal, and Mac Brown just went and quit..... screw Texas (if you're in Mac Brown's shoes) TX made him their plan B and even let him know he was their plan b.... then plan A fell through last year, now they are did it again this year.... now they have to go to plan c.... lol... serves them right.

Jameis won the Heisman... also good. I just realized... Jameis Winston wasn't even born when Charlie Ward (FSU's 1st Heisman winner) won his Heisman back in 93. lol

 

Today North Dakota State (NDSU) shoots for it's 24th consecutive win and 3rd straight FCS (Div 1-AA) championship in Frisco TX, against 13-2 Towson. NDSU is my alma mater so I'm naturally biased on this one.

Admittedly, FCS doesn't get much attention compared to the BCS Bowl games, but it's on ESPN2 starting at 2:00 Eastern Time for anyone interested in taking a look at it.

 

Tonights the big night. My alma mater is trying for it's 3rd. against my ex-wife's bandwagon school is trying for their 2nd.

and with Bama (the SEC flagship) losing, all the "sec is the greatest" crowd has to rely on a team, that for all intents and purposes, is a 3 loss team

 

WOW WOW WOW

what a game

I seriously didn't think Auburn would make it such a close game. In the end, Jimbo's SEC-esque team went the distance.

FSU had my attention from week one and as I've posted throughout the season, I didn't think it mattered who they faced in the championship game.

 

look at all the SEC fans grasping to that line to deflect away from the fact that a non-sec team beat them for the title.....


Jimbo took the SEC model and improved upon it to beat the SEC.

Unlike the SEC, FSU understands the importance of having a good field goal kicker and gives scholarships to recruit the best in the country.


Wide rights cost FSU 2 shots at national titles in the early 90s. When Janakowski left after the 99-00 national champioinship, FSU got back to the National title game, but on 4th and 2, down by 10, in normal field goal range, we had to go for it instead of getting sure points. We missed and it continued to steam roll into a 13-2 loss to OU.


Ask Bama how important a field goal kicker is.... lol

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but it was a good game.

 

SEC fans aren't grasping to any line. As a huge SEC fan I saw FSU to be the one threat to the SEC. I like Fisher and have been watching his recruiting and style. It's SEC all the way. It was a good learning moment for Auburn because you can't defend short passes with a defender who is 7 inches shorter.

I like the FSU win and the UCF win for the state of Florida because that will put more heat on Muskrat at UF. Their arch rival FSU is the nat'l champion and UF didn't even make it to a mid December bowl game.

FSU wins the championship and UCF wins a BCS bowl game. UF should have dumped Muskrat so maybe these 2 games will put him hanging by a thread and he'll be gone by mid season 2014.

 

it's not "sec style" it's winning football style. Because it's clear, not all SEC teams are equal in that regard. You continue to try to assert the SEC dominance even when they are beaten by a non SEC team.


"well, it may not be the SEC, but they are simply copying us, so we'll still count it"


As far as UF goes... I think, he was just simply too expensive to buy out of his contract for this season.

I have no sympathy for the gaytors... they sold their souls for those two national titles. Meyer wins #1 with Ron Zook's kids.... catches tebow and isn't exposed for his lack of coaching abilty until after Tebow graduates and they are left without Cam Newton, and relying on Brantly. It became obvious, Meyers doesn't coach, he finds talent, and assumes the driver's seat until the car crashes, then leaves them wrecked.

UF is STILL suffering as a result. 11-2 in the 12-13 season was playing up.... 4-8 in the 13-14 season on the weak side of the conference is ridiculous.


He will not survive after next season.... and THEN, the rebuilding of the gaytors begin. And considering they aren't getting many good recruits right now, the new coach will have to have some time, too.

5 years... minimum

 

If your heart is set to play football in the state of FL then UCF is not a bad choice. It's close to Cocoa Beach, 30 minutes from Disney, 20 minutes from Universal and lots more to do than in Gainesville and not as dangerous as Miami or Talla.

 

UCF has a good coach... but long term.... it will not maintain. This coach will be snatched up by a big name program very soon, and recruitting will disappear for UCF.

Maybe UF will hire him next season....

Maybe Texas this year.


Overall, you have UF/UM/and FSU that will pull the 5* recruits by name alone, from USF/UCF, etc. I don't care how bad UF did this year, the gaytors are established.... that's huge in recruiting against teams like UCF/USF

 

What does the SEC do that Howard Schnellenberger and Bobby Bowden didn't do?

Despite the run those SEC teams weren't that good. Talent has been diluted.

Everyone of those teams would get throttled by the teams the Hurricanes and Seminoles put together in the 90s.

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UCF is the fifth largest school in the nation the 2nd deepest recruiting state in the nation. It will be a national powerhouse.

 

that just didn't happen this year.... why haven't they competed prior? UM is not a big population school, why do they have a historical dynasty and arguably the strongest national title team (in 2002) during the BCS era?


The problem is, for UCF to become a powerhouse, they have to keep a great coach there. To do that, they better be willing to come off some $$ to keep him there.

Texas is offering a GATRILLION dollars to get the best coach available. UCF coach is a real good coach. If Texas offered him that money, do you think UCF will match like Bama did for Sabin and FSU did for Fisher?

Without the UCF coach, UCF is a mid-tier program like USF