Former MSNBC Co-Host Explains Purpose of "Liberal Bias" at Network

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  1. Horhey

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    What she says is basically what Noam Chomsky wrote in Manufacturing Consent:
    So the effect of this is creating an illusion that corporatist and imperialistic center-right policies are 'the middle' and anything to left of that - ie more humane - is 'fringe'. So take this joyous article, for example:

    Wall Street banker Cohn moving Trump toward moderate policies - Reuters


    Notice what the Reuters reporter identifies as "moderate" economics: "Business-friendly" programs, such as "Free Trade", which is supported by "moderate Republicans and many big companies," "business tax cuts", and "deregulation." So that's the political center, according to Reuters.
     
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    So the point is that they spew leftist nonsense so in effect the right seems further left than it actually is? 4D chess eh?

    For some reason I kindof doubt that the media have the best interest of the right in mind..
     
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    No, the point is to create the illusion that it is a progressive network in order to marginalize true progressive values as "fringe". For example, there's nothing at all progressive about the current Russia hysteria dominating MSNBC's programming. That is all neocon and neoliberal warmongering. But most of the network's viewers are partisan Democrats who assume the propaganda to be the progressive viewpoint. Anyone on the left who doesn't agree with it has, as Chomsky says, "taken off from the planet." MSNBC is more accurately a neoliberal propaganda organ pretending to be progressive.
     
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    MSNBC's Joy Reid gets destroyed by Glenn Greenwald on Twitter:

    Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald Apr 24
    Replying to @JoyAnnReid

    It's bizarre to be accused of ideological impurity by someone who worships the CIA, drones, wars & military torture of whistleblowers

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    What about Fox?
     
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    Excellent question, perhaps the OP will address it.

    The problem with the OP IMO is that he is not calling a spade a spade.

    The Dems AKA the Left in America would be classified as Conservative in the EU nations.

    At most what passes for liberals in this nation are Centrist Moderates. And the reason for that is epitomized by Bernie Sanders. He is considered to be on the far left fringe because he calls himself a Socialist and therein lies the problem. The truly progressive left in this nation has been demonized as "Communist" by the extremist alt right who don't have a clue what the term actually means.

    There is no "social-democrat", aside from Bernie, currently holding federal elected office. The media reflects this by treating the Dems as being the "Left" merely because they are just to the left of the Far Right GOP.
     
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    I actually did:
     
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    Can you guys lay off this weak argument? Liberal bias in the media:

    NBC, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, all have had some type of liberal controversy involving bias.

    Fox is the only right leaning one.
     
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    Wrong. They all lean right. That's the point of this thread. The corporate media determines the bounds of debate. They define what the political center is and that is corporatist, imperialist, and anti-populist, whether on the left or right.
     
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    We can't identify a left or right slant without defining a neutral. Worse than that, we have to define what is meant by "left" and "right".

    All political parties of all governments take from some to give to others. What degree of giving and taking would a neutral press favor?

    All political parties of all governments restrict some behaviors and encourage other behaviors. What degree of restriction and encouragement would a neutral press favor?

    In the USA, our two main political parties are the republicans and the democrats. With a neutral press, one should not be able to find either to be favored by the media. Obviously, this one is easy. The media overwhelmingly favor and promote the democratic party members. So the media is biased toward the democrats. One then is left with their own judgement as a guide. Are the democrats left, right, or center?

    Therefore, there can be only one conclusion. Since all political parties of all governments are inherently leftist, the media is overwhelmingly leftist.
     
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