Former Russian foreign minister: China will 'never' treat Putin as 'equal'

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  1. tharock220

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    Putin needs to fire whomever advised him rush ahead without a clear strategy assuming he hasn't had him/her/them assassinated yet. I don't know much about him but I never had the impression he was a bumbling idiot...either he is terminally ill, literally going insane or has some traitors in his midst.
     
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    @Destroyer of illusions
    I told you China was not your friend and would throw you under the bus at the first opportunity.
     
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    Oh wow. I'm certain China doesn't do BFFs. It's hard to imagine anyone would think that but I didn't read whatever posts you did to make that statement.
     
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    Oh you know he was beating the drum about the new alliance between Russia and China.
    Since I told him the majority of the developed world has now relegated Russia to pariah status
     
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    I'm not a foreign policy expert but China isn't exactly secretive about their disdain for everybody else. Plus, they don't need Russia. Why would anybody take on dead weight? Makes no sense.
     
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    This is true. I know you abhor Trump but you must give him credit for telling the truth about China.

    It is quite likely that the Chinese people are the most racist nationalistic Nation on Earth. Not to mention there like a sleeping dragon, probably the biggest threat to the rest of the world just waiting for their moment to show it
     
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    China could always use cheap natural resources. Now they've got that. Russia will practically be a vassal to them. Russia has fallen back under the yoke of the Golden Horde.

    I only worry that this may further embolden China. Having Russia over a barrel, they have less to worry about economically and in terms of energy and mineral imports if they choose to invade Taiwan or something.
     
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    Well...I did mention before that the Chinos were never Russias friends.

    So this is just a case of Russia bending over the oil barrel and China not using any Vaseline.

    I hope the Russkis like it.....ROFL.
     
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    I can't recall where I heard it but I live by it - "When someone shows you WHO they are, believe them.

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    I'm calling bullshit. The thread title is an outright lie. The article is not titled that and nowhere in it does it mention $50 barrel oil.

    Shell has been buying Russian oil at a discount of $28.50 per barrel. At current prices, Russia is still getting about $80 per barrel.
     
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    The only things I've ever heard him say about China was to praise Xi during the pandemic (when Xi was blocking investigators from the Wuhan Lab), congratulate Xi for being made President for life and that he has several businesses over there (he earned ~$54M from them).

    What did he say negative about them?
    Yes, I've heard this several times. I think it makes more sense for that to happen in more homogeneous countries and just their numbers can be quite intimidating when one is on the other side of that.

    I'm not bigoted but I think the US is racist and I have some Asian friends who are not racist. I think it's hypocritical to allow immigration (or not really do anything to stop illegal immigration) and then treat people like crap. It's more humane to just not open the country up to anybody.

    At least everyone knows where they really stand with China (except Putin's crazy misinterpretation).
     
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    Chinese will be able to buy at $10. It’s a “take it or leave it” kind of thing. If Pootin needs cash, who else can he sell that oil to? :lol:
     
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    As I said, Shell is buying. Look it up.
     
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    gotta know where to look bubba scrubba.

    oil aint the only thing the Chinese are getting at a huge discount either son. Pretty soon it'll be a province providing resources to Beijing. The CCP doesn't have shareholders.
     
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    Hey, you had your chance with your OP, but chose instead to post bullshit. If you want to assert something, it's up to you to back it up.
     
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    Petro China has the third highest earnings of any company in the world. The order is Walmart, Amazon, Petro China, Apple.

    They can now sell this oil at market price to the rest of the world and make a killing in the process. China wins again!
     
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    He is not the only one thinking that way. Check out post #14 in this thread and my response #15. It is crazy that people think China is going to magically become Russia's savior in all of this. Can you imagine thinking Russia becoming totally dependent on China is a good thing?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ok-and-twitter-access.597646/#post-1073310546
     
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    We aren't left with much in the way of alternatives, given the attitudes of Russian and Chinese leadership.
     
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    The lies and propaganda are astonishing. There's an agenda there, but a stupid one which is bound to fail as they usually do - that is unless the real intent is to cause as much death and destruction as possible without any positive result.
     
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    This describes Putin and his misguided adventure in Ukraine perfectly. :thumbsup:
     
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    He probably can't believe his good fortune......This just fell into his lap........with no effort on his part.
     
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    Anyone who thinks China sees Russia as equals is REALLY not paying attention. China basically sees Russia as a gas station masquerading as a nuclear power. Without those nukes Russia is basically a third world nation that is in decline. China knows that better than most.

    China won't sacrifice anything of value to save Russia. It will put in just enough to get what it wants, nothing more.
     
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