Formula 1 Racing

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  1. Diablo

    Diablo Well-Known Member

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    The Mazepin thing has been well reported and well objected to. Imho he shouldn't be on the grid. There would probably be other money for Haas in any case.
     
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    No worries. I believe in the glass houses approach. I suspect that almost everyone has a moment that they could take back. Grace is a hard thing sometimes.
     
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    It's not just one moment. He punched another driver in the face last year, and his driving was heavily criticised too.
     
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    Hmm.. well, if he fails, he will. There are quite a number of replacements should he. Again, time will tell.
     
  5. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    2000 to 2004. Still competing today, I believe, in Formula E, which I find boring because you don't need earplugs to attend a race. I grew up at a race track and the sound of a deep-breathing motor is like mother's heartbeat to me.

    I really miss the screaming V-10s, which is what they were running the last time I went to an F1 race, which was Montreal 2002.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What were you driving?

    I'm jealous! I would love to take my previous car, which now belongs to my son, on the COTA track. It's a 2004 BMW Z4, 3 liter in-line six with the Sport Drive setup. Does Turn 1 look like a wall when you're heading towards it?
     
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    They also have Mick Schumacher, which in my opinion is a waste of a talented young driver.
     
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    I have a somewhat hotted up M2. Going up the hill into turn 1 at 130 all you see are clouds. The surprisingly difficult part of the track are turns 4-8. Even with good tires, my car was still less than 75 through most of that. The only thing that scared me is the transition over the hill from 8-10 where the car really unweighted and floated transitioning through 80-100 mph.
     
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    So now we know. Mercedes have got a fight on for the title this year.
     
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    For sure. Also big gaps between Ver and Ham and their team mates, Stroll beat Vettel too.
     
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    Haas is a dumpster fire and I blame Gene Haas for being a bad businessman and tightwad rather than Guenther Steiner ...

    Renault's Abiteboul screwed himself big time messing with Horner at Red Bull by hiring Ricciardo only for Horner to drop Renault motors in favor of Honda ...

    About 3 years ago, I went to the big reveal at Bayfront Park in Miami for F1 to have a Grand Prix on the streets of downtown Miami 2021 ... we had just come off a fairly successful Formula E race and all the big names were there and had Biscayne Blvd closed off for some cool demos and then a big setup at the park with pavilions for quite a few of the teams ... then Hard Rock got involved and wanted to move it to Hollywood near the casino and now the whole thing is dead in the water ...

    Austin is an "OK" race, better than when they had it at Indy but still minor leagues ... downtown Miami would have been perfect but far too many chefs stirring the pot ...
     
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    I was a HUGE fan of F1 back in the 60's and 70's even going into the 90's. Lauda probably my all time favorite but there are so many. It got so technical and so EXPENSIVE that only the top teams could built competitive cars my interested waned. Indy and NASCAR and IMSA and GT's, LeMans took my interest. I have started watching more though.

    I watched my first Formula E this weekend. Kinda weird. Only 45 minutes long and each finisher was down to 1% or less some not making it back around the track. I thought the "attack" thingy was kind of interesting with the drive through area to get I think it was 37 seconds of an additional 35kw of power. Two of them. Like the push to pass Indy and some other formats are adopting to get some more competition and strategy. But then towards the end they announced the two "fan favorites" who by online fan voting got another attack period. That's giving them an unfair advantage based on how many votes they can get and takes some of the winning out to me.

    The noise was driving me crazy with the whining and high pitch sound they make. Don't know if they designed a "whistle" into the cars to make noise so other drivers can hear them or that is just the natural sound of them. Nothing like those big V-8's and V-12's.
     
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    I remember the Indy Car "push to pass" fearure, but I don't remember the basis of that extra boost.

    In F1, they run hybrids now, which recharge themselves during a race while under braking. There's also the Drag Reduction System (DRS) that allows the rear wing main element to lift, losing drag and gaining speed on the straits. Each track has at least one, often two, DRS zones, but drivers can only activate it if they are within one second of the car ahead.

    Yes, F1 is ridiculously expensive, but so much beneficial engineering has trickled down to our own cars.
     
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    Yes and there is some limitation on using the regenerative feature. They had some guy with a cutaway trying to explain but I didn't catch it all and during the race I think some were penalized for how they were using it.

    Yep it is STILL expensive even with the cost control measures they have put it.
     
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    Did you catch the new qualifying format they started at the British GP this weekend?
     
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    Not yet my DVR should have recorded it. Been out driving my new Mazda MX-5 MazdaSpeed :banana:
     
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    Not sure what to make of it. It was half a lap of wheel to wheel racing and then settled down to the usual procession.
    Today was fun though. Dramatic start and finish to the race.
     
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    Ooh, fun!
     
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    They finally figured out how to get butts into seats on Friday. The true result of this new format will be in three-day ticket sales. Always follow the money, right?
     
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    As I understand it, it's only going to be used on three occasions this year. Not sure which GPs will make up the other two.
    Yes, it's clearly about money. Silverstone had a total of 360k attend over the three days.
    The sprint was an entertaining first lap and it does help the teams collect data for the actual race but I'm not sure it is really an improvement on the standard qualifying. It does eliminate the last lap yellow flag fiasco of the last two Q3s I suppose.
    I remain undecided.
     
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    that's probably about right.
     
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    So who was to blame, HAM or VER? It worked out well for ham and merc in the end.
     
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    Definitely Hamilton. He was miles off the apex of the corner trying to squeeze Verstappen out.
    That's how you win world championships though.
    It only makes me like him even more.
    Max could have backed off instead of turning into the Merc and still had the rest of the race to take first place back. His relative lack of experience let him down.
    Can't wait for the next race now. Best F1 season in years.
     
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    Yeah, I was waiting for Lewis to get his elbows out, about time. I really don't like Max, nor his father; so good result.
     
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    I saw it as a normal racing incident, and the 10 second stop-and-go penalty was draconian. Do they want a race, or a freakin' parade?
     

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