Forum name change proposal

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  1. DoctorWho

    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

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    For a follower of Christ you sure speak more like the adversary, than Jesus.
     
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    yiostheoy Well-Known Member

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    Jesus was a rich hippy kid who was very permissive.

    I am not afraid to disagree with Jesus when need be.

    But thank you for the compliment.

    It is an old joke that if we were ever indicted for being Christian would there be enough evidence to convict us ?!

    I thank you for your kind indictment.
     
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    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

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    Not mine idictment, by thine own wirds art thou condemned.

    What further need be there ?

    Blasphemy,
    And Heresy
     
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    yiostheoy Well-Known Member

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    So you are playing Spanish inquisition.

    The Spanish inquisition was aimed at Jews however.

    I am not Jew.
     
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    Actually Jews were a convenient excuse, if you had studied that Era, you would find many people were accused of being Jews and for simply wearing a white shirt, and being "secret Jews" with no real evidence, the true motivation being the destruction of people rising too quickly to power, and to sieze lands and wealth accumulated by these people, imminent domain, as evidenced by the victims of the inquisition.
     
  6. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Any specific reasons come to mind?

    As for the forum name change, I support it.
     
  7. yiostheoy

    yiostheoy Well-Known Member

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    You need to read more.

    Read Eusebius.
     
  8. DoctorWho

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    No, I do not need to read anything concerning the Inquisition, since My family escaped Spain, Torquemada, the Spanish Inquisitor of the Catholic Church, they were called "Maranos" or translated, Pigs, Jews, and diaries were passed down from Father to Son through generations and as oral history.

    One of my ancestors:
    Admiral Luis de Carvajal was tried falsely for being a secret Jew,
    A marrano.
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    Link:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_de_Carvajal_y_de_la_Cueva

    "In 1567, Carvajal sailed for New Spain in his own ship as Admiral of a merchant fleet that sailed from the Canary Islands.

    Upon his arrival in Veracruz, (Mexico) he purchased a cattle hacienda near Tampico, (México) and settled in that village, become its mayor the following year.[3] In late 1568, Carvajal captured 78 Englishmen marooned on the Tamaulipas coast ( México) by John Hawkins, who had lost some of his ships in a fight with the Spanish fleet at Veracruz (México)."
    [4][3]"

    Overview:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition

    https://books.google.com/books?id=RdT1r60f-eAC&pg=PA525&lpg=PA525&dq=spanish+Admiral+prosecuted+for+being+a+secret+jew&source=bl&ots=MA_Eve-jkq&sig=qYxltIC92fQp-gkiIbd6Tw8KEYc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjC0-qJlYTaAhUSwmMKHaYZDpsQ6AEIETAC#v=onepage&q=spanish Admiral prosecuted for being a secret jew&f=false
     
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    yiostheoy Well-Known Member

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    Much of the Inquisition was simply the Spanish king trying to extort lands and wealth from the Jews.

    Too bad about your ancestor.

    That's great that your genealogy goes back that far. Mine barely goes back to 1900.

    Eusebius is the ammo that the Catholic Church used against the Jews which then was in turn used by the Spanish Court to "punish" them. Convert or die.
     
  10. DoctorWho

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    Yes, very true.

    The King wanted, land, money, to get shut of his dissenters, or Political rivals gotten rid of.

    And this was a very nice and convenient solution to many of his problems in one neat package backed by the Church and most everyone else at the time, especially
    Catholics.

    People lived in fear of the power wielded by the Catholic Church and of Catholic Priests in general, and if the Inquisition made a decree or accusation agaist somone, getting burned at the stake was the likeliest punishment for being a "Secret Jew" a Heretic, and very little evidence or proof needed beyond an insane Alcoholic's testimony of having witnessed the accused the defendant performing the Sabath ritual meal and blessing over bread and wine etc lighting the Sabbath candles while not yet dark, even if such a man was totally discredited in all other matters.
     
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    Even today, Catholicism blames the Jews for many things.
     
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