Founder of the 9/11 Truth Movement: Christopher Bollyn

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  1. l4zarus

    l4zarus Member

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    This will come as a shock to some people. I was mildly surprised.

    But that's how Bollyn's speaking event at a truther group was described last year:

    http://www.meetup.com/lonelantern/messages/52801292/


    9/11 Truth Movement Founder: Chris Bollyn Speaks Tonight!!!
    From: PAUL
    Sent on: Thursday, May 9, 2013 2:07 PM
    PLEASE PASS THIS ON; CALL IN YOUR QUESTIONS AND/OR COMMENTS.
    From: AMERICAN UNDERGROUND NETWORK
    Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 11:30 PM
    Subject: ccc-6th ANNIVERSARY SHOW - CHRIS BOLLYN -5-9-2013 (9PM)

    Link for THURSDAY's Show # 300
    6th ANNIVERSARY BROADCAST
    Christopher Bollyn - Star Reporter from the American Free Press
    Founder of the 9-11 Truth Movement
    Week Number 300 5-9-2013

    http://www.aunetwork.tv/News_Letter.htm

    This truther meetup seems to have a very Tea Party flavor to it, fwiw...

    What do "truthers" think about Bollyn being asserted to have founded the Truth movement? At one time I would have dismissed it as a truther baiting game. But knowing the ADL reported Bollyn promoting a Judy Wood's truther theory 4 years before Judy Wood was a "truther" puts things in a different light.

    I don't believe one person "invented" the truth movement. IMHO it was a money making oportunity for many fringe interests who have worked together informally to bilk people, especiallu those with antiwar sympathies, since.

    If you are a truther and you find the fact Bollyn is promoted as a founder objectionable, you should reconsider what the real agenda of the "truth" movement is and whether you want to be part of that.
     
  2. genericBob

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    Like any sort of "movement" .... or?
    the Truth movement is full of splinters ( unfortunately! )
    and as such we all just have to get along as best we can given the circumstances.
    Really I have no first-hand knowledge of Christopher Bollyn and a look up on the web yields a plethora of conflicting articles, some describing him as a saint, and others Satan incarnate....

    So what we have here is yet another tangent motivated by a war of personalities, a political war, not a discussion of the facts of the case, there are plenty of facts to discuss, however if the faction that wants to keep chanting "the truth movement is dead, {or at least dying}" wants to paint a picture of some allegedly undesirable individual being heralded as the "founder" of the Truth Movement, whatever ......
    The fact that I consider myself to be a TRUTH SEEKER, in no way signifies alignment with any specific faction, I have stated elsewhere on this forum that I am definitely NOT a member of the Richard Gage fan club.

    What is YOUR agenda by posting the original bit here?
     
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    Why be so preoccupied with that when you could be asking legitimate questions like, "I wonder what those twenty-eight classified pages in the two-thousand and two Joint Congressional Inquiry dealing with 'Foreign Involvement'?" That is the real truth movement, and it extends so much beyond just 9/11. If you look at http://fas.org/ or http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/, those are real beacons of the truth movement. Shedding light on official illegalities, transparency, information sharing, etc.
     
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    and you ignore the complete & total destruction of 3 steel framed skyscrapers on the same day? Where are the aircraft?
    Why no flight data recorders found at "ground zero"?
     
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    like I said, no proof....just the same tired questions since 2004.
     
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    The complete & total destruction of 3 steel framed skyscrapers
    doesn't set of alarms with you? and the manner of said destruction,
    and the fact that the crash of "FLT175" looks much more like B movie special effects than anything.
     
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    :roflol: :roflol: its like 2007 all over again.

    :)
     
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    and still no actual rebuttal to the facts of this case.
     
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    You have yet to provide facts. All you've done is be incredulous.
     
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    The fact that YOU will not accept the INFORMATION
    already presented, in no way modifies the validity of said INFORMATION.
     
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    You have presented no information, only misinformed speculation.
     
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    is it speculation, that is the manner of "collapse" for WTC1,2 & 7?
    is it speculation to describe the crash of FLT175 as much more like B movie special effects rather than an actual airliner crash?
    + have you actually looked at the PENTAGON scene? where is the aircraft? the allegation that the entire aircraft ( or 99% of it ) entered the building is ludicrous!

    The whole official story is based on "it could happen like that" REALLY....

    or something......
     
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    he never will.

    all they wil ever present, is ignorant and baseless speculation.

    its all they will ever have.

    they will never provide a concise and thorough hypothesis of what happened
     
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    We have a crime having been committed and its obvious that it was NOT done with hijacked airliners, now what, just because I can not supply you with an explanation that covers every nit, you dismiss the whole argument. however, a very critical bit of evidence is missing and has not been accounted for and may never be accounted for because the whole hijacked airliners story is bogus. The planes "FLT11" "FLT175" "FLT77" & "FLT93" never existed, its a figment a total fraud, if the airliners had actually existed, there would be enough aircraft bits accounted for to prove there was a plane, however the fact that there was no accounting for the aircraft bits, drives home the last nail, the suicidal hijackers story is dead!
     
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    Argument from incredulity with no evidence to support it.
     
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    Find hard evidence that substantiates the claim that airliners were used as weapons against the WTC towers & Pentagon.
     
  20. LoneStrSt8

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    Not up to us to do that,Bob....the physical evidence of the planes speaks for itself.

    Up to YOU to prove there were no planes.

    Up to now,you've been left wanting.
     
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    You say the physical evidence of the planes speaks for itself,
    however all we have are a collection of snap-shots of what is alleged to be aircraft wreckage from "FLT11" "FLT175" "FLT77" & "FLT93" however is there any actual documented connection between the airliner wreckage and the actual identity of the airliner in question, that is a forensic examination of the wreckage?
     
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    FBI. FOIA.

    Read. Reading is fundamental.
     
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    So obviously YOU do not have the info, otherwise
    why would you not share it, so the fact here is that YOU
    have chosen to accept a story from the mainstream media
    without proper proof of the validity of any of their claims.
     
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    If I did, you would just wave it away like all of the other evidence I have posted for you. I'm done holding your hand.
    Go directly to the source and view what you're asking for.

    I know: you're to lazy to do it for yourself. So much easier to just be incredulous and misinformed.
     
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    Like with the alleged INFORMATION that explosives were looked for and not found, (etc.... ) I have been repeatedly told to process FOIA requests for INFORMATION, however, a very serious question in this freedom loving republic with "leaders" that make all sorts of speeches about "transparency" of the administration, WHY should it be that critical data about so serious an event be withheld, and if it isn't secret, WHY isn't it published?

    The other problem with this tangent is the fact that you appear to have either taken on blind faith the official version of the story, or you have seen the data, and you refuse to share what you have based on an assumption that I'm not going to accept it. and that is a LOT of assumption!
     

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