Franciscan priest: Transgenderism is a sin against at least 4 of the 10 Commandments

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    …Lying to someone and telling them they are a different sex violates the Eighth Commandment, while helping them mutilate their body through surgery or drugs violates the Fifth Commandment, he said later in his homily. “Attempting to chemically or surgically or hormonally alter my gender is a grave sin, it’s actually a form of mutilation,” he stressed.

    “As an ideology, [transgenderism] contradicts natural law and divine revelation, so to affirm it would be sinful, it would be actually a sin against the First Commandment, so a sin against the virtue of faith, against the divinely revealed truth about human sexuality,” Fr. Chartier added.

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    Transgenderism is “aligned with the false understanding of the human person and the false understanding of human sexuality, that’s part and parcel with the modern-day homosexual movement,” he said.

    “Transgender promoters believe that sexual identity, and therefore human identity, is self-defined and it’s the personal choice of the individual,” the priest said. “So, facts of nature aren’t facts unless I say that they are. That would essentially be their ideological position.”

    Fr. Chartier said that “transgenderism is the latest fruit of what Pope Benedict XVI called the dictatorship of moral relativism.”

    READ: Cardinal Müller: Transgender ideology is ‘self-mutilation,’ promoting it is a ‘serious sin’

    He pointed out that transgenderism is simply a new form of dualism, a heresy. …









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    t is definitely a sin. It is morally wrong. It is a great deception. It is the mutilation of ones body. It is a denial of God Himself.
     
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    Moral relativism indeed. And then the compelled acceptance of such deviance. What it does to actual women and girls in security, bathrooms, sports causes them considerable harm.
     
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    Too bad for you that we don't use the 10 Commandments to make our laws. It seems we have this little thing called the First Amendment, and it separates Church from State.
     
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    We are talking about a member of a group infamously involved in paedophilia
     
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    What the??

    What causes harm is not accepting people as God made them

    Tell me - how would you have us treat a child who was born XXY?
     
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    Not accepting people as god made them…

    But the movement is all about transforming oneself from one gender to another due to the inability to accept the gender one is born with. Hence the “trans” in transgender”.

    Not that I agree with whatever religious nonsense this priest is going on about.
     
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    The argument is that that IS how God made them - with different external genitalia to how they believe they are
     
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    Sounds like refusal to accept the truth to me.
     
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    The truth is many folks are born with undistinguishable genitals(inter sex)..

    Intersex people are individuals born with any of several sex characteristics including chromosome patterns, gonads, or genitals that, according to the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, "do not fit typical binary notions of male or female bodies"
     
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    maybe the lesson they are here to learn in this incarnation is that you are not your body. You are your consciousness, spirit, soul, or whatever you want to call it. The body is just a vehicle, a vessel for the spirit.
    Certainly some guy who says he speaks for god has no clue what is going on on a spiritual level with someone they never met.
     
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    The lesson is this, why are these people passing judgment about the splinter in the eyes of transgenders when it ignores the beam in their eyes with their sins?
     
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    If the body is just a vessel then why the need to transform it into another gender. Sounds like the true lesson is learning to accept their circumstances.
     
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    Well just say a blessing that you are not one of those caught in their dilemma

    Me? I am a Buddhist- I believe in reincarnation and I firmly believe that many who are spending their making the lives of LGBTQI people miserable are destined to spend at least the next two lives learning what it is like first hand

    And if you think gender fluidity is a new phenomenon then you have never researched Fa’afafine

    https://nhm.org/stories/beyond-gender-indigenous-perspectives-faafafine-and-faafatama

    Fluid gender roles were and are part of many indigenous cultures
     
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    For me “sin” lies in hurting someone else unnecessarily. The fact that so many evangelicals are condemning of others and therefore cause unnecessary hurt is one of the reasons I have little time for them
     
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    Separation of church and state is a cornerstone of the US Constitution. Keeping religion out of politics is best for the country as a whole.
     
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    I have challenged these Christians to show me in the Bible where Jesus said he wanted his flocks to condemn and persecute people in his name..Yet, no one answers.
     
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    Where in the Hell was this morality when you elected Trump to be the fearless leader of the USA?
     
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    He was a savior in great need!! :D
     
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    He made David look like an altar boy.
     
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    Several of the 10 commandments are morally bankrupt. It punishes freedom of religion with death and celebrates the punishment of people for the actions of their ancestor.
     
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    there could very well be a need for a balance of the masculine and the feminine. Maybe that will be a later lesson. In the end they will learn what they need to. Everyone will, because we are all one. You are them and they are you, god/creation experiencing itself through individual consciousness veiled from the source. you will go through what they are going through in some incarnation, or perhaps you already have.
     
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    So, I bet they're are Australians that have committed that act but I won't hold it against you.
     
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    I'm not a huge fan of telling people they need to butcher their genitalia to feel normal and I'm not a fan of the medical industry making money on this.

    But lifesitenews? That's right wing huffpost. Aka bottom feeding/ mollusk media.
     
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    Having to change yourself with hormones and surgery is not accepting the Way You Are nobody should have to do that and I don't think it's going to make someone less likely to kill themselves.

    You don't treat depression with surgery and hormones.

    What on Earth does Klinefelter syndrome have to do with this?
     
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    What is Jesus commandment of love about?

    “This is the first and great commandment. “And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.” This means we are commanded to love everyone, since Jesus's parable of the good Samaritan teaches that everyone is our neighbor.

    Two Great Commandments - Church of Jesus Christ
     
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