Franciscan priest: Transgenderism is a sin against at least 4 of the 10 Commandments

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  1. Pixie

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    You just have to love the Church lecturing against the evil of the flash while having had centuries of mental and physical abuse including rape and paedophilia, slavery of single mothers and above all, cover ups from the highest authority.
    It was this current Pope who FINALLY allowed civil authorties to investigate accusations of clerical sex abuse when the first written evidence of it is hundreds of years old.
    And people voluntarily accept the statements of ONE man because he wears à bathrobe.
    And in doing so, points à finger at those trying to find their own identity.
    Simply incredible . I mean it defies reason.
    It defies intellect.
    It defies honesty, truth, compassion, empathy, Love, brotherhood and unity, consistency and transparence of purpose.
    The hypocrisy stinks.
     
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    There is no biblical ground for a condemnation of transgenderism. All people gay, straight bisexual, transgender, asexual; all these people are made in the image and likeness of God. You cannot show me 1 You cannot show me 1 berth 1 verse in the Bible which says that a person's gender is Sacred verse, 1 verse, in the Bible which says that a person's gender is sacred. And that is because God is not concerned with your sexuality. The Bible makes it quite clear what God is concerned with, what Jesus speaks of Time, After Time, After Time and that is is love and compassion. For those Christians who quote the Old Testament I would remind you that Paul says we are not under the law, he then goes on to say that Christ has met the cost of the law and that gentiles are not required to fulfill any part of it. Frankly this kind of prurient interest in what other people have inside their pants is simply unacceptable for a Christian further I would also argue it is an acceptable for a Jew or a Muslim; In fact for anyone. The church I represent as Bishop, which is The Reformed old Catholic Church, accepts all people as they are, where they are; if that means that they are in the process of transitioning from one gender to another we will support them prayerfully, compassionately; we will offer them counseling if they wish counseling; we will leave them the hell alone if that is what they want as well and I would recommend to all Christians that they do the same.
     
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    The values come from some place.

    Having a law against killing another person is unconstitutional then? It is one of the commandments.
     
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    Laws against murder, theft, and assault are fairly universal in most cultures because we don't want those thing happening to us or our loved ones. No god or gods need to be involved.

    Also, I think you may be a little confused over that I was saying. There is nothing in the constitution that prevents congress from making a law that is similar to one that is in the Bible, however it does prevent the Bible from being the law of the land. You see, congress has to vote for it and the President has to sign it into law. This may help you understand our system a little better:
     
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    Thomas Jefferson may disagree with you:
    “I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church and State,”
     
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    Are you making the argument that we should be accepting of the fact that a child is born extremely deformed because God made the child that way? If so, then there should be no criticism of God for people getting cancer (or any other sickness) because that's the way God made people. I'm not sure atheists will accept that type of God.
     
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    What is your problem? I have forgotten more than you will know.

    You inferred that if a law comes from a holy book it is unconstitutional based on the establishment clause . And thank you by the way for educating me that laws against murder are universal. Freaking duh!

    Oh laws need to be passed by congress? You learned that in 3rd grade didn't you?:frown:
     
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    Actually it was you who inferred I was saying that, but it wasn't what I was trying to imply. What I was trying to say was that just because it is against the 10 Commandments, it doesn't mean it is against the law, nor should it be.

    Also, if you have forgotten more than I know, you might want to see a neurologist, forgetting that much could be a sign of a serious problem
     

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