Friends of yours watch Heaven Is For Real and ask you about it?

How should you react?

Back in 1988 I might have quoted about Satan appearing as a angel of light and then taken them to some verses in Ecclesiastes that at the time seemed pretty direct and straightforward to me.

I no longer think that way at all.

Now I am sure that three year old Colton Burpo is an extremely credible witness and that he had the same type of experience that the Apostle Paul reports in II Corinthians 12:2-4.

2Corinthians 12:1 - 4

¶ It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord.

I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth ; such an one caught up to the third heaven

And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth ;

How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."


Back in 1988 when I was a firm believer in the "soul sleep" doctrine I would have probably figured that what Colton saw must somehow fit with:

2Corinthians 11:14
"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."

My beliefs were so dogmatic because I took the following statements as the final word on the state of the dead:



Ecclesiastes 9:5

"For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten."

 

Ok..... so I could be wrong..........

 

"That's what I wanted to be!" (a being of light to Ms. Benita Morissette during her NDE)

In my opinion..... that particular being of light........
has class..... and courage.... and off the scale intelligence.......
and deserves to be given some credit.......
and we Christians should learn from the approach of ArchAngel Michael toward Lucifer.......
before we begin to list accusations against that particular being of light........


2Peter 2:11

"Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord."

For the record.... it is still my belief that little Colton Burpo met a different one from the being of light that Ms. Benita Morissette met during her spiritual experience.......
I believe that Colton met the real Messiah Yeshua - Jesus whereas Ms. Benita Morissette.......
much like Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus in Matthew chapter 4... met Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan....

 

Okay....let me get this straight.

Both people "Meet" a being that no one else can see.
Both people explain their experiences with said invisible and unknowable being in a different way.
The invisible and unknowable being that no one else sees, is knowable and seen by Dennis Tate who will now explain what the two people actually saw regardless of it's invisibility and the fact he was not there.
All based on a series of near death experiences that have no actual basis in observed reality.

...Uh...yeah....makes perfect sense.

 

Exactly........
(I admit that I could be incorrect about much of this but at least the opinions that I have arrived at
regarding two very, very different beings of light who can meet people when they are in the out of
the body state...... or near death state...... is based on 27 years of researching near death experiences
as well as the Jewish and Christian scriptures plus apocrypha)!

I believe that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus - Issa met the same being of light that Ms. Benita Morissette met
and termed him "The Tempter"....

Matthew 4:1

¶
Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.
And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them
And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him."

So... my theory is that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus - Issa... induced a very similar type of experience to
that of Ms. Benita Morissette.... and met a spiritual being he termed The Tempter......
which = Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan........

I personally believe that similar to Stanley Milgram.....
who loved and respected the "teacher subjects" who DID NOT mindlessly obey the authority figure... who gave them stupid directives to shock the
"learner subjects" supposedly to the point of near death........
Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan.... actually loved and respected the fact that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus
rebelled against his temptations..........

and... .Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan truly respects Ms. Benita Morissette for
giving her life to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus with her whole heart.........

 

I believe that Jesus IS Satan and used the whole thing to create workings in your mind that will inevitably lead to you travelling to the Temple Mount and constructing the third temple (with the Islamic construction company you develop All Level Lattice Automated Hexagon ALLAH) Engaging the world engine of destruction that is in the earths core. You have been tapped to be the anti Christ and purposefully kept in the dark by design in order for Gods ultimate plan to come to fruition.

Congratulations....I think.

 

If your dead ancestors have nothing better to do than watch The Living then they must be in hell.

 

'Satan', or the accuser, is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked, and who can know 'him''?

Jeremiah 17:9
"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?"

And of course, every heart which is 'caught' in any wrong doing, will disguise itself as not guilty, or as an angel of 'Light' (Innocence).

And when we die, we have no more reward because we have no more works to be rewarded for. Our works would cease. Many times the works a person did in their life is forgotten but the name might live on for a while.

 

If I'm Jesus, then who's me?

 

Mount Olympus is for real!

 

I didn't say you were Jesus............now did I?

You are a wannabe Satan with dillusions of evil grandeur.

 

Wow!!!!!!

I hope that you don't mind but I have got to quote your exceptionally insightful comment over to another discussion that I began a week or so ago...........

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ch-to-satanists.517921/page-3#post-1068261345

and another one that I began in 2013........... ......

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...bilize-climate.288721/page-15#post-1068261382

 

No one named Burpo is credible.

 

Satan is God and God is Satan Demon est Deus Inversus. You might be on to something.

 

You might enjoy this........
then again... maybe not?!

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/darth-vader-azazel-zeus.516000/

Darth Vader = Azazel = Zeus???

 

I would first wonder (very hard) why friends had watched that film.

 

I also saw Johnny Depp's latest movie.....
and I liked it... but the
people of England liked Colton Burpo a lot more.......

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-heaven-is-real-697764

Box Office: 'Heaven Is for Real' Crushes Johnny Depp's Latest Bomb 'Transcendence'

 

This interview is 54 minutes long.......
but very well done and I am now listening to this again...........

 

Dennis...I well understand your position and fixation on this "Unique" and strange phenomenon, but I must point out with respect that due to the interesting persona you have represented here it might be best if you in particular refrained from being its representative if only because your postings are simply not taken in any way seriously. I myself have experience with the NDE phenomenon through my own mother and believe there is something to it, but I must question my own understanding because it aligns slightly with your own.

 

LOL!

Yes...... I have to admit that many people could be turned away from NDE accounts........
simply because I think so highly of them.

My two ex-wives would probably tend to fall into that segment of the population!?

 

But a lot of people are viewing this video.......

37,471,119 views so far!

 

Jesus, in a way, was 'satan', just as every other human being is 'satan'.

Jeremiah 17:9 gives us a look into how this is possible and more likely the case than having a 'serpent' be a 'man'.

"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?"


Let us start with that. The heart is deceitful above all things. Okay... So the normal, healthy heart will not believe lies and fallacies. But many hearts will. Let us take, for example, the possibility for a serpent, or snake, to become a human man. How likely and how physically possible is that? Can Science prove its validity? Probably not.. And so for a human being to believe that a snake can body shift itself into a man is deceiving, unless otherwise proven to be scientifically able.

Well, Jesus also had a human heart. Although He did not have a biological 'father', (being fertilized with a male gamete, the sperm cell), He did have a natural human heart that needed to do its function. And that heart might have been the very 'satan' which He encountered while in the desert. After 40 days of 'fasting', no food (?), might it be possible that He began to 'hallucinate' a little? And while He was in his own 'hallucination', might He have fought with Himself as to doubt His Father and claim 'normal' over claiming God's Only Begotten Son? What I mean is this. How long can a person play the charade of trying to fool himself into believing he is something other than he really is?

So this fight with Himself was actually the fight between the world saying He was NOT anything out of the ordinary, especially The Messiah, and His True Identity. The world was saying, 'snap out of your delusion of grandeur' and He was saying, 'I will remain on the work I have'.

Here is an example of how something 'impossible' is recited as something possible and even real...

The National Anthem for Japan.




'May Japan's Reign last for 10 Thousand years until the pebbles grow into boulders, lush with moss.'


Is it physically and scientifically possible for 'pebbles' to GROW into boulders, lush with moss in any Scientific Rock Formation Processes?

If you ask a Geologist, he/she might be able to give a clearer answer.

Okay, so Geologist might know that this is probably more unlikely than likely. But here is the question that really matters.

What are the children of Japan thinking when they hear their own National Anthem? Do they know anything of Geology in Japan and is Geology being taught within part of their Elementary School education? If not, then what might they think to this statement?


How would you like to go through life believing that pebbles can grow into boulders all because noone told you the truth to the matter of what is in the National Anthem, if you were of the Japanese Heritage?

And one other thing.. Why are the leaders of The United States having such wonderful talks with the Leaders of Japan yet not bringing this issue to their attention?

Japan doesn't need to be told that they are 'wrong', but inquiring as to what the meaning is and the scientific ramifications of it being more likely untrue than true could help many 'behind the scenes' issues, both on the Large and Smaller scales.

Looking at this issue from the Capitalistic point of view, it is more about $$$ than about Truth(s). Or maybe a combination of how a part-Truth can have more lucrative profits. What is the 'part-Truth' you may ask?

The part Truth is that it IS in the Japanese National Anthem with obscure, more unlikely than likely, statements.

 

More than likely there was differential transmogrification within the temperal sphere projected upon desert silicon waves which infected the Jesus mind invoking imagined reptilian human hybrid hallucinations increased by induced famine.

 

A very similar part-Truth can be seen in The song 'God bless The U.S.A.' by Lee Greenwood.




If tomorrow all the things were gone I'd worked for all my life
And I had to start again with just my children and my wife
I'd thank my lucky stars to be livin' here today
'Cause the flag still stands for freedom and they can't take that away

And I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died, who gave that right to me
And I'd gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today
'Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land
God bless the USA

From the lakes of Minnesota, to the hills of Tennessee
Across the plains of Texas, from sea to shining sea
From Detroit down to Houston and New York to LA
Well, there's pride in every American heart
And it's time we stand and say that

[2x]
I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died, who gave that right to me
And I'd gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today
'Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land
God bless the USA
https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/leegreenwood/godblesstheusa.html

"If tomorrow all the things were gone I'd worked for all my life
And I had to start again with just my children and my wife"

What is he trying to say here? That for some odd irregular reason, I might find that everything I had worked for all my life might be 'gone'? And I would 'start' up with just my children and my wife with nothing I've earned under my feet to support me?

How is that 'lucky'?


"'Cause the flag still stands for freedom and they can't take that away"

what kind of 'freedom' is that that I might wake up one day to find all my belongings and everything I've worked for all my life, 'gone'?



"And I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free"

And who can be proud to be anything that has such a strange occurrence be a possibility?


"And I won't forget the men who died, who gave that right to me"

Are you meaning to tell me that the men who died, who died to give that right to me and to all, died so that this crazy 'idea' might continue thriving as a possibility in The U.S.A?

So, if you want to know if the F.B.I. has a 'problem', as some other threads have posted, ask them what the meaning to such songs that represent The U.S. patriotism is about and how it is beneficial to all U.S. citizens.





AirBorne!!

The 82nd Airborne Division is an airborne infantry division of the United States Army, specializing in parachute assault operations into denied areas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/82nd_Airborne_Division


Special forces and special operations forces are military units trained to conduct special operations.[1][2][3] NATO defines special operations as "military activities conducted by specially designated, organized, trained, and equipped forces, manned with selected personnel, using unconventional tactics, techniques, and modes of employment"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_forces


Brawn without knowledge seems right to many but the end thereof are the ways of death.

Proverbs 14:12
"There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death."


Special Forces' Troops promoting unhealthy practices. Not very good role models, I wouldn't think.

But get this... Would it have been insubordination to their Commander if they did not want to partake in singing the song due to its wrong message?

You have the blind leading the blind and the the deaf causing to become deaf.

Matthew 15:12-14
"Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying? 13But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. 14Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch."


Sure, they might take a couple of innocent people down with them, but their end, if they do not gain sight, will be the same place(s) they made the innocent to lay in.

There are innocent persons in every place and territory people live within.

You don't go seeking to hunt down and get rid of the person(s) that are causing you emotional distresses. Get over it and get right.

If their upbringing with their parents and relatives did not teach them these things, then .. I don't know....

Proverbs 22:6
"Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it."


Transgender first-grader wins the right to use girls' restroom
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/24/us/colorado-transgender-girl-school/index.html


First Graders usually do not know the telephone numbers to their local Legal Aid offices to get Legal Advice, wouldn't you agree?


Sex-change treatment for kids on the rise
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sex-change-treatment-for-kids-on-the-rise/


Do we really 'love' our kids or are we nothing more than hot gas blowing out of human holes?


A transgender first-grader who was born a boy but identifies as a girl has won the right to use the girls' restroom at her Colorado school.


'Billy, halloween is only once a year. Can you please go and take off the costume until then. Don't you have homework you need to do?'

'But ma, I'm a real 'fairy'. See, my purple hair and wings?'








http://torontosun.com/2017/03/02/ma...lien/wcm/da8137f3-6edc-478b-a506-4e861756455b


I mean, where are the brains that say such things is okay and not harmful coming from? Unless the job market in the future change with these persons, these persons are going to have a really difficult time finding beneficial, rewarding Employment. And unfortunately, their parents aren't going to be around forever....


Are these sorts of things, really, what The U.S. is all about today?


Anyone have any 'predictions' on who the 48th or 49th President of The United States might be?

 

christofascism is the enemy of humanity



in addition, the Torah was given to the Jews not to the christers, so quoting from hebrew scripture as if it has something to do with your religion is quite laughable