Fully Vaccinated Cases in this County

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  1. Cougarbear

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    Reviewed by the same liars about human causes for climate change? No thanks! I trust the Israelis way more than I do liberals in the U.S. Or commies in Australia. The study is scientific and it's correct. Dr. Fauci is a quack that has given us many different directives based on the political control over him and what will make him more money. Just like the climate change liberal quacks.
    I'm not against getting the vaccine. I did as did most of our family. One son we believe got it in the very beginning of the pandemic before we knew about it. He survived being young and healthy and is completely immune to it. Natural immunity lasts longer as well. Vaccines don't protect everyone from dying from it either. There are risks in life but liberals use this to scare people and to control their movement and abilities to earn income. Fox is by far the most balanced and fair reporting institution we have today. Do you know that all the major liberal media have not covered the impeachable phone call of Joe Talibiden with the former president of Afghanistan? Not once. Communists!
     
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    Small town with small numbers. Like I said, out here where we are testing 4,000 to 7,000 every day, the numbers are smaller. 5 - 20% on the 14 day averages. Mostly in the 10% range. this is more of a large number pool for statistics than the small town. So, that study you show is not accurate for the country. I'll stick with our numbers.
     
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    Wow - you really took an egg beater to pretty much everything going on, didn't you!

    It shouldn't take you much investigation to notice that the various issues you conflate are actually quite separable and do NOT have to do with one administration or political party.

    If you want to discuss one of those, then pick one.
     
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    I agree with your concern about small numbers, but those need to be investigated, too.

    Just out of curiosity, what community of scientists is developing "your" numbers?
     
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    Sorry you aren't able to understand what the comparison is. That's not my issue though. The comparison with the Covid19 and the examples is the liberal mind is illogical.
     
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    The numbers come from the various testing sites and hospitals. It doesn't take scientists to add up all those tested, those in hospitals and those dying. A vary bizarre question.
     
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    The CDC is not "liberal" or "conservative" in its science.

    You may not like their policy recommendations, but they ARE what medical science recommends.
     
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    Testing site data is HUGELY skewed, as it pertains to those who choose to be tested.

    Hospital records have similar skewing, obviously, as they only see people who come to the hospital.

    Data from hospitals and testing sites can not be considered a scientific study, though it can form a basis for answering certain specific questions.
     
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    Did you know you and your doctor are not legally allowed to know which variant you have been infected with?

    It has to do with lab sequencing governed by federal law. Labs have to go through a rigorous process for government approval and labs are just not bothering to do it because it takes time and money for each variant. They cannot release results without government approval.
     
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    And why two top scientists just resigned because the WH decided not to follow the science.
     
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    This has been answered over and over again.

    Those resignations were not over the science.
     
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    OK, they resigned because the WH is pushing boosters without listening to the science so…
     
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    That's not my understanding.

    But, I'd sure like a cite of evidence you're right about this.
     
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    Ugh. Ok. One more time. Pfizer and Moderna are effective what? 88 percent in young health people? That means 12 people out of 100 will still get covid. Your stats list that of all those infect...that only 5 percent are from those fully vaccinated.

    That's exactly what I was expecting. So working as intended. The masks are bullshit. If I can get away with wearing a glorified bandana on my face then that should tell ya that the mask mandate is just virtue signalling.
     
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    And the Mask Karens don't take them seriously:

    BUSTED: Biden Adviser Samantha Power Shuns Federal Law, Rides Amtrak Without a Mask.

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    These people make me sick.
    Elizabeth Warren Violates New Mexico Mask Mandate at Biden Cabinet Member's Wedding

    DCCC Chairman Partied Maskless at Billionaire’s Estate in France After State Dept. Issued ‘Do Not Travel’ Warning

    BUSTED: Habitual Parking Violator AOC Shuns Pelosi’s Mask Mandate, Puts Lives at Risk

    Democrats Praise Lawmakers Who Violated Biden Mask Mandate
     
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    You will stick with what the deacons of the church tell you to stick with.

    Data from Israel, Great Britain, Italy, Iceland and other countries all show the same thing as the Cape Cod data showed: A widely inoculated population is followed soon by large numbers of positive tests.
     
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    Not filling us with confidence: What we got at the first of the vaccination process was "messaging". Now we are getting "recalibration", which is actually a consistent downgrading of results compared with the initial "messaging".

    Former FDA Commissioner Gottlieb: Actually, it may be that the first two vaccine doses end up functioning as only one dose.

    “Gottlieb is a member of Pfizer’s board of directors so you’re welcome to discount his arguments in favor of booster shots if you like. But he’s only saying here what Fauci and eminent immunologists like Stanley Plotkin have said elsewhere lately. It’s not unusual for people to need three doses of a vaccine rather than two in order to build durable immune memory against a particular virus. And there was no way to know up front how many doses it would take of a novel vaccine like the mRNA platform to instill durable protection from a novel virus like SARS-CoV-2. Although I don’t recall many, or really any, warnings from Fauci, Gottlieb, and the rest earlier this year that three doses was a strong possibility.”

    Nope. I don't remember anything like that either.
     
  18. truth and justice

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    From your link:
    Compare that to the unvaccinated

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    Anyone with a little knowledge of statistics would understand that if virtually all residents are fully vaccinated then finding that some got covid is not a surprise
     
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    Data from the UK shows that the vaccine has reduced hospitalisation and deaths among the vaccinated 85% less than those unvaccinated. What do you keep spreading fake news?
     
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    Exactly. Growing data world wide shows that high rates of injection in any given population is followed soon by higher rates of infection.

    Neither masks nor shots work like the public has been led to believe. The public is wonderfully misinformed.
     
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    The vaccine has reduced hospitalization and deaths by over 85% for the vaccinated when compared to the unvaccinated. You keep ignoring this
     
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    That's because I ignore the propaganda. Actually, I read much of the propaganda just to find out how they want me to think and keep abreast of the latest propaganda points.

    You buy into the propaganda, believing known liars in the media.

    That is how you and I are different.
     
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    Please explain how those numbers in hospital is propaganda - are they all actors?
     
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    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
    And then you would bitch about "unsupported opinion". The whole point is to bitch, isn't it?

    Oh! And to obstruct anything that might show you're wrong.
     
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    I just expect people to think for themselves, even if they happen to be wrong.
     
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