Gary Johnson-Libertarian alternative

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  1. OneThunder

    OneThunder New Member Past Donor

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    Libertarian Presidential nominee Gary Johnson is still struggling to get his name on the polls, so in an effort to garner more media attention, Johnson started a new money bomb with the goal of getting $10,000 for every percent needed to get into the debates, $150,000 in total. State polls show him with roughly 6-9%, but Johnson hopes that can change after his continued success at achieving ballot access and changing his focus towards getting more votes.
    http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2012/07/gary-johnson-raises-money-for-debate/

    Gary Johnson seems like the rational alternative to the choices we now have. Can he do it?
     
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    In be for our resident anti 3rd party troll comes and (*)(*)(*)(*)s on this thread.
     
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    Can he doit, unlikely, is he the best candidate? Yes.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    what about ron paul? He at least has a prayer.Johnson doesnt even ahave a prayer.nobody has heard of him.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    What about Ron Paul.He is going to the convention you know? you dont see him as a rational choice for the office? Paul unlike Johnson has a chance at the white house however slim it is.He may not win but he at least will pave the wave for Johnson in the 2016 election.This election Johnson has no preayer whatsoever,its over with for him.He could have a shot at the 2016 election though.thats what he needs to focus on now.Getting more and more people aware of who he is like Paul did this time around by writing a book.The 2008 election few people had heard of Paul,now he is pretty much a household name.That could be inspiration for johnson for 2016.
     
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    If he was bright he would have joined the GOP and been in that foot race and done much better. Staying in a fringe Party makes him a hero to...what, 3-4% of the people, and a fool to the rest of us.
     
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    Yep he did it! Now we are putting a goal up of 250,000.
     
  8. caul

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    He would have died in the GOP race. The Republican party only likes extremists now.
     
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    He was in the GOP race while there were still several candidates. Moreover, he "joined" the GOP decades ago. He only left a few months ago to accept the Libertarian nomination.

    But, speaking of fools, thank you for proving major party supporters like yourself are completely ignorant of the background of the candidates when they vote.
     
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    I'm sure Obama would like to see him on every state's ballot.

    A third party ballot is a wasted ballot.
     
  11. reckoning

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    Gary Jhonson does not compare with Ron Paul. I prefer Ron Paul as THE alternative.

    If everything goes fine in the delegate process for Ron Paul, he could be put on the nomination along Rombama.

    Crossing fingers and hoping the delegates of Maine DONT COMPROMISE.
     
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    The only 'wasted' vote is a vote not cast.
     
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    Two political parties is undemocratic.

    If anyone disagrees with the Two Media and Government supported choices then they should choose the Media and Government Choice? Hell no, that's not how a Government answerable to the people is supposed to be. The question you need to ask is why the (*)(*)(*)(*) are 3rd parties never given a chance when a lot of what I have read on Gary Johnson is not as extreme as the crazy Libertarian Party Planks which smell of Anarcho-capitalism.

    Gary Johnson is a rather reasonable candidate who would have made the anyone but Romney Republicans get to the polls. I think the LPNC is getting smart this election in how they manage resources. Time will tell, they've let me down in the past.
     
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    I am voting for the guy.

    Whilst I disagree with him on some issues and he has no chance, he more closely resembles my beliefs than do the other candidates.

    Plus I will not vote for Obama and refuse to vote for someone who has the same policies as Obama except socially, where he goes Christ.
     
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    That's really the only legitimate reason to case a vote for someone. The problem is, 90% of the voters pull levers merely to vote against someone, not to vote for someone.
     
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    EXACTLY. It seems everyone I know is voting AGAINST someone not FOR someone. How lame is that? Wouldn't it be cool if instead of pulling the lever, one would have to answer a questionnaire in the voting booth about policy then the computer tallies up the answers, compares it to the candidates,and it automatically votes for the one that most closely matches the voter's answers?
     
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    Do the Libertarians have viable candidates downticket? You know 435 Reps and 33 Senators?

    Politics is a team game.
     
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    Democrats consistently need a 3rd Party Candidate to pull votes away from the Republican to have a chance in General Elections.

    Started with the Election of 1912, continued thorough the 60s, 1992 (Ross Perot) 1996 (Perot)...
     
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    you mean a fool OF the rest of you.
     
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    A nice sentiment, but unfortunately not true. Any vote that does not go to one of the two major parties that actually can win is wasted. You should vote for the Republican or Democrat candidate the most closely matches your preferences. To vote for libertarian just takes a vote away from the Republican. That may make you feel good, but it is stupid.
     
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    Neither match remotely to my preferences. I'll vote my conscious, thank you.
     
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    I think the point of voting for a Libertarian is precisely to take a vote away from a Republican. And a Democrat. That's how voting works, you vote FOR the candidate you want, which effectively take a vote away from ALL OTHER candidates.
     
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    Circular reasoning = illogical.

    The only reason a candidate "can't win" is because they don't have enough votes. So, explain to me how it's logical to not vote for someone because they don't have enough votes.

    Your brand of thinking is exactly, precisely, the #1 problem with our political system. Playing the polls instead of trying to elect people who will actually represent your interests; which is, you know, how a representative government is supposed to work.
     
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    That may be. But a vote for either of the two main parties are bad too.

    This is exactly why the electoral system needs to be changed. The "winner take all" system needs to be scrapped.
    There should be several candidates that can be elected within each congressional district. (this would likely involve making the districts bigger)
     
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    When the 2 parties are the same on everything but social issues, economics is everything and there is no choice but a 3rd party who wont win, every vote is a wasted vote. The only question come this time next year is am I going to laugh at democrats whom nothing is better for or republicans whom nothing is better for?
     

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