Gary Mack.Traiter and disgrace to america and patriotic americans

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  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Um no he is not right.

    Yes they testified to a large hole.

    But not to an antrance wound that part is imagined by you and alpha.
     
  2. Brother Jonathan

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    Official testimony does not trump witness testimony if the official testimony ignores witness testimony. Changing the official story, while ignoring witness testimony, to match the official story is old hat. This is the 21st century after all. We have the Internet... the truth machine at our fingertips.
     
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    I never said anything about official testimony.

    I stated physical evidence does trump eyewitness testimony and that is fact because the human memory and brain is not a reliable recording device.

    The official investigation ignored no witnesses. It is in fact conspiracy theorists who ignore any witness which undermines their theory.

    You have yet to produce any truth in this or any other tthread your use of the internet is simply provign you ignore deny and hate the truth at all costs.

    The offiical investigation included all known available witnesses and evidence and then followed that evidence to a conclusion. The CTers do the opposite starting with a theory and using only what can be twisted and perverted to support it.
     
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    If there is no conspiracy and if there is nothing to hide then why were standard FBI protocols ignored? Why were Doctors testimony's silenced. Why were Doctors forced to sign Non-Disclosure Agreements.

    Look....there is more than enough evidence and conflicting statements to the official reports to warrant an investigation.

    I understand why they covered this up because it was in the best interest of the country at the time but enough time has passed and the truth needs to be told.

    Now in 2017 I believe they will release pertinent evidence and documentation....unless the President of the United States decides otherwise.

    It will be interesting to see what happens.

    And here is basic logic....if the evidence was overwhelming that Oswald acted alone....then why seal all data and evidence? Why allow a Conspiracy Theory to Grow?

    There is no logic to this as the only reason anyone would not simply run the cadaver tests is because they would show....AND DID SHOW....the bullet had to enter from the front left temple.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    FBI protocols were not ignored the FBI followed whatever protocols Hoover dictated.
    Of course the Warren Commission was not part of the FBI the FBI merely assisted them.

    The doctors testimony was never silenced nor did they sign non-diclosure agreements. This is why so many quotes and records of their testimony can be found all over the place including these forums.

    There is not enough conflicting statements or evidence to warrant ANOTHER investigation it has in fact been done already.

    The House Select Committee on Assassination did in fact conclude that there was a probable conspiracy. But that conclusion was based on one and ONLY one piece of evidence which has been proven false.

    The point is the rest of the body of work from the HSCA completly backs up the Warren Commission and destroys the rest of the claims of the conspiracy theorists. For example the HSCA put to rest the notion of a magic bullet and proved that the Warren Commission never described any such bullet or any such performance by a bullet.

    Once again you keep repeating the same falsehoods. They did not seal all data or even most of it the vast majority of documents, data and evidence has been publically available for decades only a small % has remained classified for good reasons.

    The government cannot allow or forbid a conspiracy theory or conspiracy theory industry to grow ( or shrink ) . I guess you forgot that we live in the USA and people are free to try and sell books and movies even if they are filled with lies about the government.

    The government did openly publish most of the evidence and findings but that does not mean they can force people to read it. The fact is most people ( like you ) do not bother to read or examine the governments reports on this subject and that is why conspiracy theories grow.They can tell any lies they like and most people will not bother to check the facts. ( once again the magic bullet is the glaring example of this )

    The cadaver tests did not show what you claim.

    They were in fact inconclusive proving that the evidence proving one lone assassin is sound.
     
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    First of all, your claim is probably false, i'm not sure they didn't follow protocols. Having said this, i bet FBI has not followed standard protocol all the time, just like the LAPD, NYPD and any other agency. No-one follows all rules 100% of the time. This, however, doesn't prove a conspiracy theory. This is a classic conspiracy theorist strategy - look for any inconsistency or imperfection and use it as 'evidence'.

    explain yourself, they all testified before the WC and HSCA and if you do your research, you will find their testimony.

    . this is irrelevant since they were never silenced.

    of course, assassinations warrant investigation and more often than not, witnesses tend to not all agree. Don't you see proof of this in every day events? like the bike gang incident? trevor martin? etc... again, you guys use stuff that is commonplace in murders, crimes and somehow think JFK assassination involved never experienced before inconsistencies

    no they didn't cover anything up and you have zero evidence of this.. It's been 50 years and no evidence of a conspiracy has surfaced, it never will

    i would recommend that you not get too excited about this because it will reveal no conspiracy. Of course, if it doesn't, you and your friends will claim something was covered up.

    It will be a non-eventful day...

    seal what evidence? all the evidence has been out there and subject to investigations. There is no such 'sealed and hidden' evidence that you speak of. Yes, evidence is overwhelming, like the fact that documents show he owned the rifle; his finger prints were all over the weapon and other areas around sniper's nest; eye witnesses saw him in the building just prior to the shots; pictures show him holding the rifle. This is as overwhelming as you can possibly get so what do you guys do? claim it's all fabricated, planted.. so really you will not accept any hard evidence.

    I can start a conspiracy theory right now, who will stop me? and no matter how weak and devoid of evidence conspiracy theories are, there are thousands of Americans that are paranoid and blinded by their hatred for government. They will believe any crook and liar that publishes a book or makes a movie, no matter how ridiculous the conspiracy theories are. Moon landing, JFK, 09/11.. it will never stop. Probably the easiest thing to do is to convince a conspiracy theorist of a conspiracy..

    but wait, you and your friends claim there was a huge exit wound in the back of Kenney's head, on the right side. How can a bullet enter his left front temple, make a U turn and come out the right side of the back of his head? Now THIS, is a magic bullet! Also, not even the doctors you speak of saw a frontal head wound and autopsy didn't find it either. So, i don't know what you guys even believe in cause you contradict yourselves so badly, it's a entertainment
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    majority of witnesses heard shots from behind JFK
     
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    The fact that Bill O'Reilly had a segment on Hard Copy about the conspiracy and now writes a book endorsing the Warren Commission seems suspicious too. Or the fact that Vincent Bugliosi spoke about his belief in a conspiracy in the RFK assassination and now ridicules JFK assassination believers also seems odd. I agree. Some of these people were either paid off or threatened. I don't buy that they suddenly "came to their senses".
     
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    I don't buy "they suddenly came to their senses" either.

    Mathematical Synchronization of Zapruder Film and Dallas Police Department DictaBelt

    [video=youtube;pgHllYzzFWc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgHllYzzFWc[/video]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgHllYzzFWc
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    So any time someone has beliefs and ideas you disagree with or they simply change their minds it is suspicious?

    The whole planet must be in a conspiracy against you.

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    Maybe you missed the facts which ruin that whole video.

    The dctaphone belt records no gun shots and as it turns out the recording was not even made at Dealey plaza.

    Therefore any such synchronization with the Zapruder film is false before it starts
     
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    I can see in the timeframe i was gone the paid shills have been out in full force in this section to no surprise.Only an idiot would say Mack came to his senses.hahahahahahaha

    He had his senses when he was saying for years that it was a conspiracy. to come to your senses,someone would conclude there was a conspiracy because they would not ignore what all the dallas doctors said and what witnesses saw that day.:roll:

    only an idiot would not come to the rational conclusion that Mack went for greener pastures or had his family members threatened.excellent post.well said.
     
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    Except that no one is ignoring ignoring the doctors or the witnesses they simply do not prove a conspiracy.

    Only an idiot would demand that there were threats without a shred of evidence.

    Oh thats right you NEVER post evidence
     
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    You are ignoring the evidence. Dark Legacy. Read it for yourself.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    Excellent post.well done.stands up and gives standing ovation.:clapping::thumbsup::thumbsup::worship:

    O'reily is a paid operative of the governments.He toots the horn of the governments version of events constantly all the time.He is full of hot air and a freaking pathological liar and a tool for the government as is the likes of hannity and colmes
     
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    havent you heard the news yet,that the magic bullet theorists only see what they WANT to see and never watch videos or read anything that goes against the official version?
     
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    Which ones?
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    I did and they present zero evidence

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    Yes you always do that and you are the chief magic bullet believer.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    so again,dont expect them to watch it.they cover their eyes to that video since it shows them pics of multiple bullets photographed that day which proves there were multiple shooters.:grin:
     
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    Nope. One shooter: Oswald.
     
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    since that other thread got closed the other day"which was actually a good thing and a big favor for me since the title of it was pure b.s and a bunch of lies despite what all the paid govenrmnet shills say that come on here and defend the lies of the warren commission that oswald was the lone assassin say." THIS thread title is the TRUTH despite what those paid liars of the government say.

    Brother Jonathan you mentioned on another thread sometime back how The Lincoln assassination had some similarities to the Jfk assassination.That is an understatement.Lets take a look at those similarities.

    1.With the JFK assassination,the secret service agents committed treason by staying out till the wee hours of the night till 3 am the previous night getting plastered.they were so buzzed in the morning that none of that reacted to the shots save one.the one assigned to protect Jackie,Clint Hill.

    guess what? with Lincoln,the same exact same thing happened.HIS guard left HIS post as well to also get drunk.just like with jfk,that guard who was suppose to be protecting him and negated his duty,did not do so either and liek them,also was not reprimanded either for his incompetence. so why was the presidents single bodyguard absent from his post during the murder,and never punished,or ever questioned? why?

    2.after the JFK assassination,all the communication lines in the white house were down for over two hours.
    same with Lincoln assassination.

    With Lincoln,the washington telegraph system mysteriously failed moments after the fatal shot was fired.
    for hours after the murder,the commerical telegraph lines from washington were blacked out.

    3.with kennedy,many of his high cabinet members who normally rode with him,did not do so in dallas and were in honalulu instead for a meeting.

    with Lincoln,a number of high government officials turned down Lincolns PERSONAL REQUEST to meet him at Fords Theatre..
    4.with jfk,he had hundreds of death threats issued to him from the state of texas in the prior months before going to dallas and the protection by the secret serice that day was a joke.

    same with Linclon.why despite countless threats and known plots,did the war dept not provide Lincoln with adequete protection?

    5.with the jfk assassination,Johnsons fingerprints are all over the place in his coverup of the assassination.

    with Lincoln,his power obsessed secretary of war edward Stanton appeared to play a key role in it.

    6.With Jfk,the man who was shot down in the basement of the police station could not have been oswald because the birth lee harvey oswald was listed at 5'11 in his marines where the man shot down in the dallas police dept basement,was listed at just 5'8" amazing how he shrunk.

    same with Lincoln. was the man shot at the Garrets farm and identified as John Wilkes Booth actually Booth or a substitute as well? the evidence shows it was a substitute as well.

    On a unsolved mysteries special,they had a doctor that examined Booth who said this man doesn have a scar on his body,the real john booth did.same with oswald.he had some kind of operation done on his ear as a child but the man that was guned down in dallas did NOT!!!!

    one thing thats not a similarity but is for sure worth mentioning about the Lincoln assassination is why were road blocks put up on every exit leaving washington EXCEPT on the killers escape route?
     
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    All of which is irrelevant.

    Funny thing about conspiracy theorists they generally leave the Lincoln assassination alone.

    The reason is probably because history shows us there really was a conspiracy involved in his murder. Boothe had accomplices some of whom were executed after the fact.

    In the case of JFK however there is no evidence of a conspiracy.

    In addition the strange similarities between the two do nothing more than prove that coincidences are common and not evidence of something ominous.
     
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    yep thats something the paid shills at this forum never have an answer for.any of these facts you mentioned. that one marksmen who finally got it on his third try,he wasnt even doing it under the same circustances either.he got to shoot at a non moving target and the tree that obstructed oswalds view was cut down as well.

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    yeah don deserves a standing ovation.:clapping:
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sad how Truthers think ANYONE who disagrees with them is a "paid shill".

    sad, and paranoid.
     
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    Yeah...no such thing as paid shills...we know.
     
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    It was many marksmen and they all got it right shooting at moving targets.

    The tree is still there it was not in Oswalds way and it was not cut down later.

    Those are facts, what you are claiming are lies.
     

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