Gay Teen Suicide: A Range of Causes

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Silhouette, May 26, 2011.

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Do you think the scenario in the OP is a plausible cause for gay teen suicide?

  1. No, it's utter rubbish

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  2. Possibly, I'd have to see more data

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  3. Yes, I think it's possible

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  4. Absolutely. I even know of such a case that is very simliar

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  1. Silhouette

    Silhouette New Member

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    We hear quite a lot in the news today about "gay teen suicide". It seems to be the tired pony the Agenda keeps whipping. Although they don't seem as concerned about other forms of teen suicide?

    Anyway you always hear that "all gay teens who commit suicide do so because [fill in the blank latest gay agenda item that hasn't been won yet] is so oppressive! While not making light of ANY teenager who considers suicide, I have to notice that using this mental-health plague to foward an agenda, that in and of itself may be the cause of said plague, goes beyond seedy and enters into the realm of diabolical..criminal...

    On and on we hear that "gayness is genetic", but with no proof to date. And this tiny drop in the bucket is supposed to carry more weight than an ocean ag scientists stumbled across with all mammal species; being able to train animals to orient [become aroused exclusively at] any number of stimuli outside the normal function of reproductive sex. Bulls, boars, stallions, rams, bucks, dogs, zoo mammals of all species can be trained to salivate and get a raging hard on for paper bags, halters of a certain color, certain lighting, stuffed dummies, types of corral, other males, certain handlers, plastic containers...literally anything present during the first few episodes of orgasmic conditioning. It's not a theory, it's a fact. And they take this fact to the bank every day.

    The gay retort? That humans are the exception...naturally...lol..

    But back to the more serious aspect of this thread. The following scenario is a montage of many known factors that different homosexuals have suffered through. And I present it as a possible scenario for the cause of gay teen suicides. Remember to bear in mind what scientists have already found across mammalian species [with humans as the singular exception according to gay advocates] as to training orientation.

    The poll is to simply say whether or not you feel this scenario is or could be a valid source of angst sufficient enough for a gay teen to take their own life. Please, be very serious in your voting. This is about fragile minds and precious human life. Don't politicize it. Vote exactly how your gut tells you to vote, how your conscience in a quiet and candid moment will approve of what it is you put out as the truth of your private perspective..

     
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    I'm sure that is all quite possible. But I can't see it being too common. One of my best friends is gay and as such I've hung out with a lot of gay dudes and not a single one expressed any desire to "throw off homosexual compulsive feelings and take a wife and have children and live as his father did." Could that be true of someone? Sure. But I'm sure someone has committed suicide because McDonalds ran out of McNuggets. The real question I have is that the cause of gay teen suicide seems pretty clear, so why did we need a thread expousing a silly theory?
     
  3. Silhouette

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    No, the cause of gay teen suicide is not "quite clear". There is no singular cause of gay teen suicide. Gay teens turned out in the Castro district of San Francisco, where support for gays is everywhere; even militant forces defending them and "loving them" eight ways to Sunday, are still committing suicide.

    So it must be something else.

    Speaking of the Castro district and the OP scenario:

    If you could name a Mecca that supports gay teens, it would be the Castro District in San Francisco, CA. Harvey Milk was called "The Mayor of the Castro District". Looks like he was filled to the brim with compassion for his sex toys.

    Care to rethink the "one-size-fits-all" gay teen suicide theory you put forward?
     
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    stekim New Member

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    If my theory were one size fits all, your post would really be on point.
     
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    It's rubbish. There was a teen in NJ who committed suicide over this topic. Complete fool.
     
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    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    More research is warranted; but do you really think you've truly answered any of the problem with your inept ranting? (Think again.)
     
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    Why does where one wishes to stick his dingus, have to be public knowledge?

    Does your hetro neighbor engage multiple different sex acts? Do they have multiple partners? Are they bisexual? Are they nudists? None of our business is it? Why does homosexuality have to be broadcast all over the world?
     
  8. Silhouette

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    This is a serious subject Johnny. Lives may depend upon the honest evaluation of the OP scenario. We can leave no stone unturned in our search for the myriad of reasons any teen may commit suicide. I personally am alarmed by the statements made by Harvey Milk, a gay politician who paraded about as an advocate for teens. He was anything but. He was a predator of teens and used advocacy as a cloak for harvesting young minors, psychologically at-risk [street urchins] as sex objects for his enjoyment.

    This type of predation does in fact exist in gay culture. It's something none of you want to discuss. And certainly never in any connection to gay teen suicides. But as I said, I could give a rat's about your protests and wish to find all the causes for gay teen suicide. You want us to take it seriously? I agree. So I'm taking it UBER seriously. I'm going to dig very deep into every single possible cause of this epidemic.

    And for the record, I agree. If someone wants and truly enjoys his homosexuality, he should not be bullied for it. It is a behavior and as such enjoys no special "racial" rights or promotion however. But bullied? Absolutely not.

    But don't discard the other possibilities I'm presenting here. I'll remind you again: lives are at stake. Either you take gay teen suicide completely seriously and want to end the epidemic by any means necessary, by exposing any truth necessary...no matter what the cost..even to the Almighty Agenda, or you don't take it seriously and are using it to forward a political agenda.
     
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    The topic may indeed be serious. It's your theory that's not.
     
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    How do you know your neighbor is heterosexual? Is it because they're broadcasting their heterosexuality?
     
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    It exists in every culture. Your demonization of homosexuals is what's ridiculous.
     
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    Yep. There are certainly sex predators who are gay. No question about it. Murderers? Yep. Robbers? Sure. But the question is, what the hell does any of that have to do with being gay?
     
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    I don't know, THAT IS the point. Did I ask if they are bisexual? Sorry if I didn't ask if they were queers. If that gives you wood.

    But the question was:

    Why does their sexual preference have to be broadcast all over the world?
     
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    It doesn't have to be. But lots of people broadcast their sexual preference. It doesn't bother me!
    My boss broadcasts her heterosexuality whenever she mentions her husband. But it doesn't bother me. Because I'm a rational person.
     
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    One she may be covering her bisexuality. And two has she ever been on national TV broadcasting her preferences?
     
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    I'm having a hard time answering because the homosexuality and the molestation at a (pre)pubescent age aren't necessarily related. If someone who would normally be heterosexual is only attracted to men because of being molested, then he's conflicted because of the abuse. Just like any other domestic abuse victim who is only attracted to other abusive relationships, the sexuality of the individual isn't really the issue. Take out the sexuality of the teen and just go with molested teen attracted to the demographic of his/her abuser, and your scenario is completely plausible.
     
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    Do you mean a study like this one?

    That reflects these findings:

    I would say those statistics might contribute to "gay" teen suicides. It is possible. And as long as it is possible, in order to save lives, we should definitley be talking about it and exploring it in depth..
     
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    This.

    The OP is projecting that example as if it is commonplace.
     
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    Explain the causal relationship you perceive, not the correlative relationship seen in a handful of studies.
     
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    You've said it, in a nutshell!
     
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    You are spot-on!
     
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    What makes suicide attractive to "gay" teens is the very same entity that makes them sexually attracted to the same gender.
     
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    You could also expouse the theory that heterosexual teen suicide is caused by the desire to throw off heterosexual compulsive feelings in order to be gay like someone you emulate. Is that possible? Sure. I'll even believe it's happened (I've never heard of it, but I'll go with it). But is that a leading cause of hetero teen suicide? Ahhhhh, no.
     
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    Jesus? Is that it?
     
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    Let's leave metaphysics and religion out of the discussion. I understand some of you have leanings in that way but there is only one way to win this debate and it is in the world of rational thought.

    I don't think the scenario [evil looking guy with red eyes and goulish grin] is the same for hetero teens. That is because they wouldn't be wanting a family and unable to have one naturally with the reproductive gender. That would be the case for a gay teen, regardless of how many people supported him in his lifestyle. Ultimately his logical mind would remind him again and again that his sexual compulsion to only seek out same gendered partners for copulation would render him naturally childless.

    Of course gay advocates would then argue adoption. But then we have to consider that adoption agencies are very picky, rightfully so, about who they let these vulnerable kids go to. And given the comments by uber-gay "advocate", the "Mayor of the Castro District" about his "compassion" for kids..and the gay molestation statistics.. I don't know. I mean the adoption agencies cannot afford to place kids in a situation that stastistics tell them would be more likely to cause them to come to harm.

    We are talking about behavior and not race here. So keep that in the front of your mind.
     
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