Gaza, ‘West Bank,’ No Longer Occupied Territories in 2017 State Dept. Human Rights Report

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  1. k995

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    Only if you are braindead I would ever believe what a politician says. Certainly one like trump who seems to lie constantly.

    Anyway its clear from just looking at the situation west bank is still occupied and the ethnic cleansing continues under israeli rule.
     
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    According to the Israeli Supreme Court, the West Bank is under Israeli Occupation.

    Trump's useless gestures are a short term anamoly.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seven years is a looooooong time in politics, almost an eternity. How does Trump puts it... we’ll see what’s gonna happen? :)
     
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    2020 is only 2 years away, if he lasts till then.

    he'll likely be impeached or he'll resign before the election, which he will likely lose.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not say. Does.

    And Trump did.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah yes... hope and change. We’ll see what’s gonna happen. Meanwhile, Sama4ia and Judea are not occupied, and our embassy is moving into Jerusalem in May.

    Your move, Palestinian people.
     
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    The Israeli Supreme Court says that it IS occupied by Israel.

    I think they understand the issue better than donald dump, the one term zionist stooge
     
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    Because you don't need to kick them out to decolonize, as Israeli Arabs outnumber them. The trilemma is that Israel can pick 2 of 3: Democracy, Jewish Majority, and Control between the Mediterranean and Jordan River. I say that the Jewish Majority be dropped. Jewish people can stay, they just have to get used to a multiethnic society.
     
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    Thanks to a combination of US aid/funding and Israeli oppression.
     
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    land conquered in a war is occupied, until the conquerer at leasts annexes the land.

    Israel has annexed East Jerusalem, so they can make some argument that its no longer Occupied.

    but the rest of the West Bank has never been annexed, so the only other possible legal status is "occupied".
     
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    How much cash does the USA send to each of those countries annually, and for how many years?
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Arguing with neocons about international laws and even the Israel constitution on land grab is a waste of time. May be they are just as stupid as their accusation of leftists.
     
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    Its mere words aka says. West bank is de facto still occupied. Trump can publish all the documents he wants nothing is going to change reality on the ground.

    But its quite funny to see that trump with a few words can change your view on reality. Thats brainwashing is very deep it seems.
     
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    Of course Trump endorses war crimes when its his "friend" that does it. Sane people can see it for what it truly is.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps, you need to reread OP. Based on the decision not to call Judea and Samaria “occupied”, United States decisions concerning regional policies will now be taken differently. So, the reality on the ground has been changed with a stroke of Trump’s pen :)
     
  16. Kode

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    Trouble yourself to become familiar with the truth of the other side.

    https://www.opendemocracy.net/transformation/ray-filar/why-i-am-antizionist-jew
    http://www.mepc.org/anti-zionism-anti-semitic-jewish-critics-speak
    https://electronicintifada.net/content/jewish-challenges-zionism-rise-us/8878


    https://bit.ly/2qODVZk
    http://freedom-articles.toolsforfreedom.com/jews-against-zionism/
    http://www.stopwar.org.uk/index.php...m-chomsky-famous-jews-who-have-opposed-israel
     
  17. Kode

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    See my above post to you. Only pro-Zionists deny brutal repression of Palestinians.
     
  18. Kode

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    Maybe it's your own problem, knowing just one side. Here's just a little help with that:

    https://www.opendemocracy.net/transformation/ray-filar/why-i-am-antizionist-jew
    http://www.mepc.org/anti-zionism-anti-semitic-jewish-critics-speak
    https://electronicintifada.net/content/jewish-challenges-zionism-rise-us/8878


    https://bit.ly/2qODVZk
    http://freedom-articles.toolsforfreedom.com/jews-against-zionism/
    http://www.stopwar.org.uk/index.php...m-chomsky-famous-jews-who-have-opposed-israel
     
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    Israel quietly, with USA help, started most of those wars.
     
  20. Dutch

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    His answer will be, Jews invited all of this on themselves when they ethnic cleansed 800,000 Arabs from all these Jewish countries.

    Or, was it the other way around?
     
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    :wall:
     
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    Perhaps, now they will review their position?
     
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    why, are they subject to bribery like Trump is?
     
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    I see no evidence that the State Department has changed their longstanding policy of acknowledging that most of the West Bank is still under the legal status of "Occupied".

    They are either Occupied or Israeli territories. Which is it?

    cant be both
     
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