Gaza under attack

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    They'll learn when the terrorists quit hiding behind the poor and weak.
     
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    Does that mean that you find murder of innocent people legitimate because some criminals are hiding behind?

    I think that's barbaric. Zionist learned a lot from the Third Reich gangsters. :(
     
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    When that terrorist is lobbing mortars at innocent civilians, you don't have any choice but to take them out, even if it means killing the civilians they are hiding behind. Otherwise, they will kill even more civilians and also return another day to do it again.

    The choice sucks, but it is what it is.
     
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    The "innocent [Israeli] civilians" you mention are generally heavily armed, militant Zionist land thieves squatting on illegally occupied Palestinian land in illegal, IDF protected "Settlements".

    Do you have any idea how many Zionist squatters have been killed by Palestinians who are resisting the world's oldest, most brutal and ruthless foreign funded Occupation in modern history?

    While Israel has massacred tens of thousands of Palestine's native residents, only 26 Israelis have died from all Palestinian rockets/mortars, ever.(1)

    While there are many ethical, courageous and decent Israelis who strongly oppose Israel's ethnic cleansing agenda, about half of Israel's citizens support Israel's ethnic cleansing(2).

    The solution, of course, is for Israel's ruling right wing extremists to abide by International Law but that's not going to happen as long as AIPAC and related Zionist lobbies own and operate US Foreign Policy.



    (1) “Dissecting IDF propaganda: The numbers behind the rocket attacks”
    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/11/dissecting-idf-propaganda-the-numbers-behind-the-rocket-attacks/

    EXCERPTS "This is corroborated by the Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center (ITIC),

    Below is a list of all the fatalities of rocket and mortar attacks fired from the Gaza Strip into Israel in the entire history of these attacks. Throughout the years of rocket attacks into Israel, a total of 26 people have been killed altogether.

    For 2008, it is unknown how the IDF transformed eight fatalities into fifteen.

    After a full year of no Israelis being killed by rocket fire from Gaza, Israel had to invade Gaza, prompting the new killing of three Israeli civilians, which provides retroactive justification for the prompting itself.

    Still, this is part of the story. As much as the IDF loves to play with numbers, there are certain numbers that it avoids, such as the numbers behind the artillery fire leveled against Gaza, which rivals the number of rocket attacks from Gaza."CONTINUED



    (2) “Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds”
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/almost-half-of-israeli-jews-want-ethnic-cleansing-palestinians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html

    EXCERPT “Almost half of Jewish Israelis believe Arabs should be "expelled or transferred" from Israel, a survey has found.

    A study carried out by the Pew Research Centre found that around one in five adults questioned “strongly agreed” with the controversial statement, which amounts to ethnic cleansing under some definitions.

    The Encyclopaedia Britannica describes the act as “attempting to create ethnically homogeneous geographic areas through the deportation or forcible displacement of persons belonging to particular ethnic group”, while a United Nations report in 1993 additionally specified the use of “force or intimidation”.CONTINUED
     
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    We are fed up with the Palestinian wall of lies.
    Long live Jordan - the true to become Palestine.
    Inshallahhh
     
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    Do you deny that Zionists bombed Gaza again?
    Btw, you say "Palestinian wall of lies", but you claimed before that a Palestinian people don't exist.
    How does that fit?
     
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    Israelis fire on Gaza after Hamas ( the cowords which hide behind citizens ) fire first.
    The Palestinians never existed before Kalb Arafat invented their identity.
    The father of the illegal Bedouins was called "The son of 1000 sluts" by An Arab king.
    Btw, when the Israelis will produce a vaccine to the Covid 19 Virus, i understand you will continue to boycot them.. :boo:
     
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    But Zionist doesn't aim at Hamas targets. They fire at civilians who they believe to be Hamas fighters. Zionists are the true terrorists in this conflict, not their opponents. :(

    Labeling a people as illegal clearly shows that your mindset is not far from that of the Nazis.
     
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    How many Gazans died from Israeli responding to Hamas missles in
    the last year ? Zero.
    I see that you are pro Jihad Hamas..
    Are you also Pro Hezbollah ?
     
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    The Palestinian death cult really, really despises all the peace deals Israel has in the works, and so they start firing off rockets, because they are the blood-sworn enemies of peace.

    Death cults gonna death.
     
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    Re:
    I realize that Israel's paid and scripted army of Hasbara Trolls(1) are trained to lie but what good is a lie if it is entirely unbelievable?


    "NGO: Israel forces killed 133 Palestinians in 2019, including 28 children"
    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...3-palestinians-in-2019-including-28-children/

    The 133 Palestinians murdered in 2019 during the world's oldest and most brutal foreign funded Occupation do not include the hundreds if not thousands of birth deaths and cancer deaths caused by Israel's promiscuous use of depleted uranium ordinance(2) and other Bio/ Chem weaponry.

    (1) “Here’s how to deal with extremist pro-Israeli trolls on social media”
    https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2019/06/...extremist-pro-israeli-trolls-on-social-media/

    EXCERPT “We have known for a long time that the Israeli government funds intensive online attacks against people who criticise their policies or express support for the BDS movement (Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions) against Israel or actively support the Palestinian struggle for human rights.

    A person attacked in this way will find messages posted online calling them a “Nazi”, “anti-Semite”, “Jew-hater” etc and will typically feel shocked and overwhelmed.

    Now we know the details of how this works."
    CONTINUED


    (2) "Depleted uranium weapons used by Israel on Gaza Strip"
    https://nuclear-news.net/2015/03/25/depleted-uranium-weapons-used-by-israel-on-gaza-strip/

    EXCERPT "ISRAELI NUCLEAR WAR ON GAZA using Depleted Uranium weapons from USA NUCLEAR WAR ON THE WORLD, Beautiful Bloodless Revolution, by aRLeon, 25 Mar 15 Israel over the last 6 years during the 3 Gaza invasions of 2008-2009, 2012, and 2014 has dumped a huge amount of Depleted Uranium (DU) on the Palestinian territory of Gaza Strip. The 50 day 2014 operation dispersed the largest amount of DU by way of bunker buster bombs and other undisclosed DU armaments, such as DIME mini bomb-lets etc.

    In the future the chances of the people living in the dispersal zone will acquire cancers, birth defects , still births, and other known, unknown or untraceable and undiagnosable diseases. And furthermore with the Israeli War Crime of destroying hospitals, the Palestinians have hardly any medical access."CONTINUED


     
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    The Only chemical thrown on citizens happened in Syria.
    The pro Islamo Arabo Jihado hezbollah can continue with their BS and Anti Israel propaganda... their hatred is starting to explode in their faces as Arab countries start to renew relations with Israel.
    Yes Pro Jihados... soon Sudan, Saudi and Other Arab countries will make peace while the Palestinian Bedouins continue to moan and moan and suck our donations.
     
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    RE: Gaza under attack
    ⁜→ Grau, et al,

    BLUF: This posting (Grau, post: 1072064586, member: 69782, Posting #13) contains unreliable information.

    (COMMENT)

    I am not paid by anyone. I am not an Agent of a foreign power, nor have I ever been an Agent of a foreign power. And until 2011, I carried a Level 5 Access registered in Scattered Castles. Normally I don't respond to ad hominem comments, but in this case I thought it was necessary.

    The "Hasbara" is NOT a derogatory term. It is a form of "Public Diplomacy" that attempts to explain Israeli policies and promote Israel in the face of negative press. "Hasbara" is an positive umbrella that covers those people involved in attempts at counter-propaganda which openly attacks of Israel (for whatever reason). But it is even more than that. It is a dynamic alliance and fellowship of many people from many different walks of life.

    I don't know enough about Israel and Israeli Policy to be "Habara." I am "goy." That was made clear to me many years ago.

    The "Hasbara" advocacy effort to give meaning to the State of Israel and advance the constructive qualities and attributes of Israel and its people. They do not lie (I say again) they do not lie.

    (COMMENT)

    Depleted Uranium (DU AKA: D-38) gets a bad wrap. It is DU (U-234 & U-235) is considerably less radioactive than natural uranium. There are a megaton of paranoid people in the world that want to accuse the US of anything and everything, just to get traction in the news cycle. [ See the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) info on DU. ]

    (COMMENT)

    This is just more of the same.

    [​IMG]
    Most Respectfully,
    R
     
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    They're afraid their extortion rackets and murders for hire cash will dry up. They needn't fear, since the Saudi King is still a big fan of theirs despite the new 'Reform' Prince's recent actions, and will continue to slip them money as will the UN. They can still blow up school busses and rape and stab old ladies to death and get money out of Europe.
     
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    Europe donated Billions to the so called Palestinians ... Where is the money ??
    In Attack terror tunnels, Missles and Corruption.
    Some of the money is invested on teaching Gazan kids to hate the West. Stupidity
     
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    Every decent country doesn't need such a department. As far as I know, only rogue states like Russia, China, Iran and "Israel" have agencies to manipulate world public opinion.
     
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    You won't believe yourself that we Europeans finance someone who hates us.
    We are the West. The USA too. But not "Israel".
    Israel is an Ethnocracy. As racist as Nazi Germany.
     
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    Firstly, your posts are so replete with hate filled gibberish as to render them unintelligible (i.e. "pro Islamo Arabo Jihado hezbollah...")

    Secondly, if you're driven to make outrageously false claims like the one below, why should anyone believe anything you say?
    Finally, Re:
    Wrong, again. The following are just two examples of Israel's promiscuous use of Bio/Chem agents on Palestine's native residents:

    1. "Israel spraying toxins over Palestinian crops in Gaza"

    The sprayed herbicides by the Israeli army could constitute a real hazard for the population, officials say.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/...s-palestinian-crops-gaza-160114063046813.html

    EXCERPT " Khan Younis, Gaza Strip- On January 7, a low-flying agricultural aircraft sprayed herbicides on to Palestinian farmlands along the eastern border, eradicating or damaging up to 162 hectares of crops and farmland along the Israeli border fence.
    "Herbicides are sprayed in high concentrations. Thus, they remain embedded in the soil, and then find their way to the water basin. This constitutes a real hazard for the population," said Anwar Abu Assi, manager of the chemical laboratory at the Ministry of Agriculture."CONTINUED


    2. "Israel’s Toxic Pesticides Poison Palestine, Reports Find"
    http://panap.net/2017/02/israels-toxic-pesticides-poison-palestine-reports-find/

    EXCERPT " Israel’s Illegal Production, Trade And Dumping Of Toxic Pesticides Violate Human Rights, Threaten Food Sovereignty In Occupied West Bank

    February 20 (Amman, Jordan) ¬– The illegal trade and the manufacture and use of toxic pesticides in Israeli illegal settlements, result in serious human rights violations and contribute to the food insecurity in the Occupied West Bank. This was the conclusion of a joint fact-finding mission led by the Arab Group for the Protection of Nature (APN) and the PAN Asia Pacific (PANAP)."CONTINUED


    In your hysterical zeal to excuse the inexcusable, you've sacrificed your credibility.
     
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    I never said you were a Hasbara Troll but it is a fact that there are about 15,000 paid, trained and scripted Hasbara propagandists(1) that infect the internet, Wikipedia(2), (3) the international news media, Hollywood movie makers and other sources that shape public opinion.

    Re:
    Oh, really? The doctors who have witnessed the increasing number of malformed Palestinian infants hold a different opinion:

    "Gaza sees more newborns of malformation"
    https://alethonews.wordpress.com/2009/12/31/gaza-sees-more-newborns-of-malformation/

    EXCERPT "Since the Israeli Operation Cast Lead last winter, the besieged Gaza Strip saw an increase in the proportion of fetus and newborns malformations.

    He said the increase of fetal deformity cases is related to the radioactive and toxic materials resulting from Israel’s use of prohibited weapons.

    Although fetus malformation was caused by several reasons, we should not ignore the impact of toxic substances and chemicals, especially the white phosphorus, which Israel used in a disproportional way during the war, and white phosphorus is prohibited to use in places of civilians, said the doctor."CONTINUED


    Additional evidence of Israel's genocidal agenda toward Palestine's native residents is their development and use of the genotoxic DIME bomb which is designed to sicken and / or kill the next generation:

    “The DIME Bomb: Yet another genotoxic weapon, Part III”
    https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=5748

    EXCERPT “ Since early July, Israeli forces have been using a new weapon in the Gaza Strip that inflicts strange and deadly wounds....
    .......DU & NDU bombs are converted to micron-sized particles that sicken and kill and murder the next generation in the womb.”CONTINUED


    You stated earlier:
    Now you do know about the weapons developed by the Israelis that are designed to kill not just Palestine's existing residents but also intentionally kill and / or deform human beings not yet born.

    It is precisely the goal of Israel's army of Hasbara propagandists that you never hear about these and other Israeli crimes against humanity.

    Thanks,



    (1) “Here’s how to deal with extremist pro-Israeli trolls on social media”
    https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2019/06/...extremist-pro-israeli-trolls-on-social-media/
    EXCERPT "Now we know the details of how this works.

    In many cases these attacks will be from a single person using multiple on-line identities on behalf of an Israeli government funded group called ACT.IL.

    ACT.IL boasts it has 15,000 “online volunteers”

    from 73 countries who use their app to perform online “missions” in exchange for “cool prizes” and “scholarships”.

    The ACT.IL tactic is based on the “trick” revealed by former Israeli Education Minister Shulamit Aloni.

    “WELL, IT’S A TRICK, WE ALWAYS USE IT. WHEN FROM EUROPE SOMEBODY IS CRITICIZING ISRAEL, THEN WE BRING UP THE HOLOCAUST. WHEN IN THIS COUNTRY (THE US) PEOPLE ARE CRITICIZING ISRAEL, THEN THEY ARE ANTI-SEMITIC…..IT’S VERY EASY TO BLAME PEOPLE WHO CRITICIZE CERTAIN ACTS OF THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT AS ANTI-SEMITIC, AND TO BRING UP THE HOLOCAUST, AND THE SUFFERING OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE, AND THAT IS TO JUSTIFY EVERYTHING WE DO TO THE PALESTINIANS.”
    CONTINUED


    (2) "Course: Zionist Editing on Wikipedia"



    (3) "The right's latest weapon: 'Zionist editing' on Wikipedia" Haaretz"

    https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2010/08/the-rights-latest-weapon-zionist-editing-on-wikipedia-haaretz.html

    EXCERPT"Now the Yesha Council of settlements and another right-wing group, Israel Sheli, are embarking on a Wikipedia battle: Zionist editing on the Web-based encyclopedia.

    The course was designed to teach how to register for, contribute to and edit for Wikipedia."CONTINUED
     
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    Some Arabs learned in school to hate Israel.. Their problem.
    Your posts are so replete with hate
     
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    No it is not that. It is their personal experience of their loved ones being killed by Israelis. After Cast Lead one of our Channels went and did a documentary with the kids. Almost all of the 7 year olds they interviewed wanted to grow up and be a terrorist to get back for their loved one which they had killed. They did not know why Israeli Jews always wanted to kill them. They just knew they did. All but the oldest people in Gaza will have this experience of people from Israel. Basically it is how they see Jews in general with it being the self declared Jewish State and all but all they have ever known is violence and death at the hands of 'Jews'. I doubt there is any people in the world who would not feel exactly the same if they had experienced what the people of Gaza have.
     
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    Welcome Alexa.
    We missed u :blowkiss: but we are fed up with the pro Islamo Jihado Arabo propaganda.
    What's your opinion about the peace between Arab countries and Israel ?
     
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