Gender doesn't exist...

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Yant0s, Mar 12, 2021.

  1. Maquiscat

    Maquiscat Well-Known Member

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    You do realize that even in children who do any type of transition, surgery is not part of it. That doesn't happen until adulthood, or as close to make no difference.
     
  2. Dirty Rotten Imbecile

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    It’s not even the parent’s choice. You just find out one day that they changed their name, the school now calls your kid by a different name and if you interfere you are transphobic.
     
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    Having the right to freedom and self determination is different from denying the reality.

    I wish I was 5 inches taller. I feel 5 inches taller inside. Do I get a body modification surgery to make the reality of my body conform to the way I "feel" on the inside?
    This is fundamentally no different from those men who undergo surgery to try to enlarge their sexual organ.

    I never said that anyone had to conform to stereotypes. It's perfectly fine with me if someone wants to live in a gender neutral way.

    But ironically it seems so many trans are trying to adhere to stereotypes, trying to follow their culture's preconceived stereotypes of the gender that they want the be.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Huh? What exactly are you being forced to accept?

    Biology? Culture? Other people's preconceived ideas about how you should behave?

    Just don't wear clothing that is too feminine and over the top and you should be fine.
     
  5. Patricio Da Silva

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    Good to know.

    Still, I don't think trans anything should be encouraged during childhood, because, in my view, it's based on a false assumption.

    But, whether it is, or isn't, is a matter of sociological point of view.

    There were no trans children when I grew up. This is a modern construct. Children are naturally homosexual until about the age of 8 and some adults are confusing this fact with 'well, they must be gay'.
     
  6. Patricio Da Silva

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    Wow. Is that how it is, now?

    It wasn't, when I was growing up.
     
  7. Dirty Rotten Imbecile

    Dirty Rotten Imbecile Well-Known Member

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    Well it’s a lot of histrionics too, but yeah.
     
  8. Derideo_Te

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    Reading the article will INFORM you of the CONTENT so that you can discover for yourself what was taken OUT of CONTEXT from that CONTENT.

    This isn't rocket science, just normal reading comprehension.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    I have posted those links already and if I have to go back and look it up I will also verify to see if YOU responded to the post containing the link which would be embarrassing for you.
     
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    Another MASSIVE load of UNINFORMED crap! :eek:

    Do some actual RESEARCH before you make such ASININE allegations WITHOUT any shred of truth to them.

    No child has the ability to provide CONSENT to SURGERY, period!

    No sex reassignment surgery occurs prior to age 16 in this country.

    https://www.statesman.com/story/new...ldren-and-sex-reassignment-surgery/984431007/

    FACTS matter but not to those who just want to spew nonsensical DISINFORMATION.

    Sad!
     
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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!

    Thanks for NEGATING your own POSITION!

    Priceless!

    :roflol:
     
  12. Patricio Da Silva

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    Don't have a conniption, I was spreading anything, but good to know it's not happening.

    Moreover, I don't buy into allow schools, against parental consent, to reassign a child's sex because the child says so.

    do they do that?

    You get terms wrong. Not having up to date info is not 'disinformation'. Your use of 'stereotype' is also wrong.

    Get yourself a dictionary.
     
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    Well, I read it, I saw nothing in the article that refuted the quotes, By that fact, it cannot equal 'out of context'.

    Because to assert 'out of context' means context would change the meaning of the quote, which it does not.

    But, feel free to prove me wrong.

    Merely declaring you are correct doesn't equal being correct, you actually have to prove it.

    But, of course, since the article doesn't refute the quotes, you are grasping at straws.

    I imagine your next step is to pound the table and shout.

    Right?

    I thought so.
     
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  14. Maquiscat

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    That doesn't relieve you of your responsibility to uphold your claim of it being out of context. Fact matter, but you are not showing the facts. You still haven't shown the facts of transgender DNA that you claimed and have been asked to prove multiple times. Since it's a positive claim, it on you to prove it.
     
  15. Maquiscat

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    I asked you for at least the post number. Which article of the many you posted is the one you are referring to?
     
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    As soon as transgender is mentioned, supporters immediately mention people born with more than one sexual organ. So they must believe all transgenders are of rare abnormalities.
     
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  17. Maquiscat

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    Not exactly correct. When transgender is mentioned, opponents try to claim that there is only male and female, and then you get a division on whether it is the chromosomes that prove it or the genitals that prove it. THEN you get the supporters who point out the exceptions that opponents still want to claim are male or female, but can't fit them into their supposed absolute defining criteria. And relatively speaking transgenders are rare. Most surveys have them at less than 1% (1 in 1000), where are intersex conditions can range anywhere from 1 in 70 to 1 in 13,000, depending upon which intersex condition you are talking about. And these numbers may be low since many people can have an intersex condition and never be diagnosed if they have no medical conditions arise that would cause doctors to test for them.

    But even at only 1%, that would still make about 3 million transgenders in the US alone. at .5% that's still 1.5 million transgender people. Not an insignificant number, despite its comparison to the overall population.
     
  18. Maquiscat

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    Wow! We've been running this thread for about a year now, with like 2 month gaps, give or take, here and there in between post groups.
     
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    That's a peculiar part of that isn't it?
     
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    Ironic a bit. I thought the idea was to make it normal but claiming it's an abnormality seems to undermine that.
     
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    Wow. Someone is having some identity issues...
     
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    Not now at least this has been a battle of attrition. There goal seems to be making surgery part of it.
     
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    YOU posted erroneous DISINFORMATION on a message board that is OPEN to the general public which means YOU are the SPREADER of that disinformation. No amount of backpedaling excuses the disinformation that you actually posted on this forum. Have you even asked the mods to delete your disinformation posts? Yes or no?

    Then you COMPOUND your error by making a BROAD baseless ALLEGATION about "schools" WITHOUT any substantiation WHATSOEVER.

    There has been a lawsuit filed against a SINGLE school district containing ALLEGATIONS regarding a SINGLE child that have NOT been independently verified nor has any actual evidence of any type been presented.

    But according to YOU all "schools" are doing this given YOUR failure to do any research BEFOREHAND and your FAILURE to actually provide any credible substantiation for YOUR allegation.

    Clearly YOU need to take YOUR own advice regarding a dictionary.

    Sad!
     
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    Yet another Confirmation Bias content response!

    Sad!
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    I am NOT obligated to waste my time responding to those who REFUSE to INFORM themselves of the FACTS.

    Sad!
     

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