Gender Equality in Marriage Contracts: Geographical Disparities

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    Islamic theocracies are virulently opposed to gender equality in marriage contracts, but discrimination in former Soviet Bloc nations is considerable as well. The influence of Orthodox religious sects may be a factor.

    Most Central and Eastern Europeans oppose same-sex marriage, while most Western Europeans favor it. In some cases, these views are almost universally held: Nine-in-ten Russians, for instance, oppose legal same-sex marriage, while similarly lopsided majorities in Denmark, the Netherlands and Sweden favor allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry legally. The East-West gap is large even among young people: Central and Eastern Europeans ages 18 to 34 are far more likely than their counterparts in Western Europe to oppose same-sex unions. East-West differences are evident on numerous other issues, too, including measures of religious observance and attitudes toward minorities.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/12/13/18-striking-findings-from-2018/


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    The indoctrination campaign has been very effective in the west.
     
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    How many folks in advanced Western democracies cling to the prejudices of the Islamic Republics and former Soviet Bloc?
     
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    Most Americans have certainly progressed to supporting gender equality in marriage law but, even in the US, there is a residue that prefers its prohibition as prescribed by Sharia Law.
    In stark contrast to Western democracies, The most punitive nations still outlawing equality:
    Yemen, Iran, Mauritania, Nigeria, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Somalia, Sudan, United Arab Emirates.
     
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    I suspect many of the Immigrants to western democracies from Islamic Republics and former Soviet Bloc countries do. Did you have a point?
     
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    Your suspicions are noted, but my impression is of an indigenous element, especially in the former Soviet Bloc, that shares this prejudice with those in Islamic Republics.
     
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    The propriety of private marital contracts in general is a distinct and separate matter from discrimination within the institution.
     
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    Marriage between two people of the same sex were NEVER prohibited. They simply were not issued a certificate. No law prohibited them from marrying without a certificate.
     
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    Yes, the propaganda campaign has been very effective in the west and virtually nonexistent in the Soviet Bloc and Islamic Republics.
     
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    Both are discrimination. THE OPPOSITE of equality.
     
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    Your shared views with the majorities in Islamic theocracies and former Soviet Bloc nations are noted.

    Advanced Western democracies differ.
     
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    except for the fact it was prohibited in all 50 states, as you are perfectly aware.
    and you aren't married, without that certificate.
     
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    Quite a few, at least in the matter of women's rights and homosexuality. But these are traditional views shared by all traditional cultures all over the world.

    The acceptance of homosexuality is not progress; rather it is decadence.
     
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    Gender equality in marriage contracts has been embraced by advanced Western democracies, but Islamic theocracies and former Soviet Bloc nations are still opposed to it.
     
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    Which would mean they weren't legally married and eligible to receive certain benefits married couples receive such as tax benefits, financial benefits, legal benefits, health and employment benefits to name some.
    So yes, legal marriage was prohibited at one time.
     
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    Actually precisely the opposite. They DONT view it as discrimination and oppose marriage made available to everyone on a equal basis to achieve equality.
     
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    Show me ANY such law from any point in US history that prohibited same sex marriages. You are perfectly aware of the fact that you cannot.
     
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    I'll leave it to the Islamic theocracies and former Soviet Bloc nations to rationalize their rejection of the gender equality in marriage contracts that advanced Western democracies have embraced.
     
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    And still, same sex couples married without the benefits. No one stopped them. No law punished them for doing so.
     
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    So you agree gay couples were not allowed to legally be married.
     
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    Quite so. As is China and India.

    What is your take-away from these facts? Mine is that advanced Western democracies are decadent and demoralized.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state_constitutional_amendments_banning_same-sex_unions

    It's why they couldn't marry in any state for most of this countries history. It took Obergefell v hodges to finally declare such bans against same sex marriage, were of course unconstitutional.

    So, as usual, you are 100% wrong.
     
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    they weren't married. you can only get married, with the certificate.
     
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    Some are more sympathetic to the enduring prejudices of Islamic theocracies and the principles of sharia that support the discrimination, as well as the post-Soviet refusal to respect equality in marriage contracts. I embrace the values of advanced Western nations.

    I anticipate that progress will also occur in Eastern Europe:
    The West will not regress.
     
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