gender fairness? I have an idea

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  1. Battle3

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    You have me confused with someone else. I never brought up neurological change.
     
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    GREAT ANSWER!


    YUP. let the Grunting Gorillas do the dirty work …...that "thinking" stuff might be hard for them (as seen in here) ;)
     
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    You: ""Your answer is to change all of society and human genetics"""..... I never said that.
     
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    I guess not everyone has progressed mentally past the 18th, 19th and early 20th century....they long for the "good old days" of women as house/sex slaves and nothing more....it's their easy way out, don't have to think so much.

    See, how easily what women do is dismissed and and what only some men do is blown out of proportion :

    "" Let's see her willing to take those duties. Men have to sacrifice their lives in the name of protecting the lives of others, why shouldn't women?"""


    Your total lack of respect for women, especially the women who all VOLUNTEERED to serve our country and did to heroic proportions, is quite disgusting...


    Did you note how the women who served our country, were wounded and died for our country, were


    ALL VOLUNTEERS, no one had to force them......



    YOU: """Let's see her willing to take those duties""


    DUH, they did! AND DO, and always have ....
     
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    Very very few in proportion to the men that die. Probably by at least 1000 to 1 or more.

    Men have always been the ones who pay the price for liberty and safety.

    And my grandmother wasn't a sex or a house slave any more than my grandfather was a mechanical slave. Do you honestly think men who work themselves to death have it so great? Who usually dies first, the man or the woman?
     
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    I think those women that want an abortion should have her tubes cut and the guy should get his nuts detached.

    If she hasn't got the brains to keep her legs shut and he hasn't got the brains to wrap his present, then neither should have the bits that creates life for them to murder a child.
     
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    Why?

    Except they're not "murdering" anyone....especially not a "child".


    You obviously believe that Big Governent should rule and control it's citizens like cattle......too bad, citizens are people with rights no matter how much anyone hates that idea.
     
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    No, I believe people should use their brains that they were born with.
     
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    So it's nothing more than a sporting event to you....those with the lowest "score" (deaths lose?

    I see you value male lives more than female lives ( which is misogyny)

    How about how many women VOLUNTEERED and died compared to the men who were FORCED to serve and died???



    Total bullship and total lack of knowledge of history

    Who ARE all these men you claim worked themselves to death? Yes, maybe there are but if you're implying that women NEVER were worked to death you are just ignoring that which you don't like to admit.


    AND women may NOW live longer than men because they take better care of themselves and THEY are brave enough to go to a doctor when it's necessary.....and women are just TOUGHER than men so they last longer :)
     
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    People do and have...and EVERYONE STILL makes mistakes (even YOU) and they still get pregnant....why do yo believe every mother in the world is stupid?


    Except they're not "murdering" anyone....especially not a "child".


    You obviously believe that Big Governent should rule and control it's citizens like cattle......too bad, citizens are people with rights no matter how much anyone hates that idea.
     
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    No, I believe you should use your brains that you're born with.

    That's the problem with today's society, many don't believe they're responsible for their own actions.
     
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    Oh bullship !! Pick up a damn history book!!! LEARN SOMETHING.

    "Today's" society is NO different than any other society in history as far as "responsibility" goes..


    FFSake, did you think in the last 10,000 years people ONLY had sex and kids while married??!!!!!! REALLY! What an odd and totally erroneous ( but hilarious) thought!!!..




    and not everyone subscribes to your private personal view of responsibility. I think it is very responsible to abort a fetus when one doesn't want or can't afford a kid...




    You obviously believe that Big Government should rule and control it's citizens like cattle......too bad, citizens are people with rights no matter how much anyone hates that idea.
     
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    Society is pretty bad when human life has been devalued, killed and thrown out like a bit of sputum.
     
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    No, we don't live in the dark ages, I believe you should use your brains that you're born with.

    Society and socitie's morals should advance as time passes, not remain static and draconian.
     
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    So there's , to you, only two time periods in the world's history, the Dark Ages and 2018...wow, all I can say is wow...:roll:



    Which is exactly what humans have been doing since day one....






    I assume you mean "advance"...? "Society " does NOT have ONE set of morals..."morals" vary from person to person...



    You're correct, they shouldn't and DON'T remain static and "draconian"....they change from person to person and era to era and generation to generation and country to country and did I mention the most important? Morals vary from person to person.

    "Today's society" is no more moral nor less moral than at any other time in history and only those with extremely limited knowledge of history would it is..
    Human nature , humans, do NOT change.









    You obviously believe that Big Government should rule and control it's citizens like cattle......too bad, citizens are people with rights no matter how much anyone hates that idea.
     
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    YUP! Exactly what humans have been doing since allegedly Cain killed Abel ( or the first two men beat each other to death with clubs...
     
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    Ok, I'll slow down.

    People in past societies devalued human life, killed the unborn etc..

    This is the but bit....

    But this is 2018 and the human race is supposed to be the intelligent species. Are you still with me?

    So when I say people should use their brain, what people have to do is us their brain differently, better; you know, advance. We don't live in the past and we need to get away from those Draconian ways. Society needs to progress, morally progress as well. Be responsible for your actions. So when a couple goes to the doctor as says, "I'm pregnant", the doctor should say, "Congratulations", and not, "Come on then, let's kill that foetus".

    Use your fecking brains, if you can't and she's up the duff, congratulations, you're going to be parents. Pregnancy and childten are a responsibility and not a joke.

    My brother and sister in law tried IVF about 15 times to conceive, it never happened. But we have idiots on the planet chucking babies in the bin because they've got no f****** brains. If their brains were dynamite, they couldn't blow their hat off.
     
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    Uh, where have humans shown they now value all life more than they used to? The answer, they don't.

    In case you haven't noticed there are still wars and murder and government sanctioned torture and people who like the idea of poor desperate people having their families ripped apart and a word wide thriving sex trade and ALL the bad things that have been happening since humans began...





    "Supposed to 's " and "shoulds" do not change the world nor do they change human nature.





    Please show proof of a doctor telling a woman, "Come on then, let's kill that foetus".

    I won't wait because you have no proof.

    Most people, even though morals vary from person to person , agree that taking away a human's rights is immoral...that is what you are proposing.







    No, a woman does not have to be a parent if she doesn't want to....right now, women still have the right to their own bodies even if you think they should be owned by the government.



    I never said anything different.


    So pregnant women should lose the right to their own bodies because someone else wanted kids? WHACKO!!!!!


    Maybe you brother and sister-in-law should've used their brains and adopted one of these "precious LIVES" you care so much about... …..[/QUOTE]
     
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    And women were the ones responsible for raising families and not getting paid .women die later because we are biologically superior. Bet you wish you had estrogen
     
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    Wow so many examples of extremist thinking. Like we go to doctors who say “come on let’s kill that fetus instead of congratulations “ It isn’t the doctors role to say either just to inform us.
    Then the other extremeist view that people who get abortions see pregnancy and children as a joke. Yeah, haha, it’s so funny
    And the other hyperbolic silliness like “chucking babies in a bin And you called us stupid? Stupid is people who call ZEFs babies because they can’t differentiate. Stupid is people who think an abortion is just a 5 minute procedure. Stupid is not understanding that a woman might know she isn’t ready to be a mother...and stupid is those who pass judgment on these women
     
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    In a way humans , SOME humans, got smarter and made abortion legal so women wouldn't have to die or be maimed for life......
     
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    So your big brain says "some women have trouble conceiving" somehow leads to "people who back legal abortion are stupid". Can you spell out the exact chain of logic in between your premise and conclusion?

    Before you do, you might want to check how many couples in the USA want to adopt infants (about 2 million), and compare that to the abortion rate (about 1 million/year). If abortion was banned, the baby-demand backlog here would be filled in a couple years, and from then on, most of those babies would end up in institutions. You know, like the horror stories from Romania and Russia.
     
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    Why aren't all these women that constantly claim they want to be equal to men having to sign up for selective service within 30 days of their 18th birthday. That's right. They want equal benefits just not equal responsibility.
     
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    Expecting a pregnant woman to be responsible and not kill what they knew their actions could produce isn't punishing them unless you're arguing that personal responsibility is a punishment.

    Why don't women that constantly clamor about equality push to have to sign up for selective service at age 18? Is is that they believe equality only applies when it benefits them but not when it requires something from them.
     
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    Women should be as eligible for the draft as men anyway.
     

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