Gender Identification

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  1. ibshambat

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    An Internet poster stated that men who were involved in feminism were “useful politically correct idiots.”


    I for one have opposed political correctness ever since I knew what it was. I however make a strong stance in favor of women's rights and powers in society. That is because there are many things that influence people besides self-interest. I have a daughter, and my interest in her well-being is more important to me than is my interest in my own.



    So we see these men claiming that men who are into feminism are selling out their own gender. Why on earth would they identify the people they care about with their gender? For conscientious people, there are other values besides self-interest. That includes other values besides their gender interest. If you love a woman, or if you have a daughter, then you seek her well-being even when it is not necessarily in line with your own interests as a man.



    What people who want men to identify with their gender do not understand is that nothing at all is owed to a gender. Things are owed to people who have been contributors of humanity, and that includes both women and men. I owe absolutely nothing to the male gender. I owe to people of both genders who have done valuable things. And one of the valuable things that I seek to accomplish in my lifetime is creating better man-woman relationships. I want to see people refuse to identify with their gender and instead identify with people they love. And then they can work together with people they love to create better lives for each other and better world for one another.



    Once again, I refuse to identify with a gender. There is no reason whatsoever why either a man or a woman should identify with such things. If you care about others who are not your gender, you will do what you can to improve things for them. A loving, responsible father would want the best for his daughter, and a good husband would want the best for his wife. Which means that he will refuse the unearned claims that other men make on his attention and instead do what he can to make the world better for his daughter or for his wife.



    To the men who want me to support the male gender: Piss off. I will not support a gender, and I will not give my attention to people who do not merit it. When women are doing the wrong thing, they should be confronted as much as should men who are doing the wrong thing. But forcing gender identification at the expense of identification with people you love is wrong. My daughter has the right to my attention. Some wife-beating jerk does not.



    So it is time that this con be called out. You do no favors to anyone by identifying with your gender at the expense of the other gender. And a good man will look beyond his self-interests as a man and make decisions that benefit other people, whatever gender they may be.
     
  2. MJ Davies

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    I believe this to be true regardless of the divide between various groups (based on race, sexuality, religion, etc.).
     
  3. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    all republican women have to do to end this, is say they are men and all go topless....

    if women try to go topless everywhere men can and are denied, they can sue for gender discrimination (if they claim to be a man)

    laws change when things like that happen, same is happening with men doing womens sports
     
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    There already is a movement for women to go topless, without the need to claim to be a man.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    right, but this allows them to sue for gender discrimination easier as this is a hot button issue

    when businesses can't do what is right because it will cost them mega $$$, laws have to change
     
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    It's already gender discrimination. If we are talking chest tissue over a certain size, then plenty of men should be required to cover up!
     
  7. Yant0s

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    I think that would be fantastic. It would be like heaven walking through town with all those knockers on display.

    Also asIas guy I love to be topless. The reason I don't walk around in public is it will probably make others feel uncomfortable and it isn't really publicly accepted.

    I would like this to change . It's win win.

    Where do I sign up?
     
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    The way I see it is gender is biological label. This label doesn't define you as a person, it just identifies your biology.

    I find the new fad of changing and creating genders nonsense. The people who do it are so hung up on a label that they actually believe it defines them as a person . I think it's narrow minded way of thinking.

    It doesn't bother me if people want to pigeon hole their being into a label. What bothers me is if I have a different opinion or belief I don't like people trying to force me to accept something I don't believe to be true.

    The world is a very diverse and beautiful place and I think people should accept their differences and not force belief's onto others.
     
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