George Floyd autopsy report surprise!

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  1. Moolk

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    Well for one not encouraging marrying the state as has been done.
     
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    To me, the biggest factor which can't be quantified by any statistic is the lack of love in their lives. Would someone who was taught love and empathy destroy other people's things? Would someone who was taught love and empathy hurt people? Maybe, probably but even then they have to be pushed or compelled to do it(doesn't always or mostly make it right, I'm just saying people truly brought up in love are the hardest nuts to crack.)

    What these individuals need is love, and they need love not necessarily from government or society at large but by their families.
     
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    . It all starts with families. That’s where it starts, but without it...it ends in prison or dead.
     
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    Then it would be beneficial to make sure the fathers are around and no in jail as a start.

    What other reasons are there for single family households?
     
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    Love is no doubt a huge factor.
    Maybe more than basic needs. Although one can not survive on love alone. Food is a must.
     
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    Trump went to boarding schools. No father around at all, kind of explains things.
     
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    well it would be beneficial if they weren't out commit crime for a start.

    Marrying the state I think is the largest reason why there are single family households. Remove that and one of the biggest reasons why some would rather stay single and married to the state...now they have a bit of incentive to find a marry a partner. HOpefullly a good one.

    The hyperfocus on these anecdotes of white people messing with black people, or police brutality is such a waste of time. If not coupled with the larger and more impactful reasons as to why the black community is suffering...it does nothing.

    I have no problem with calling out police brutality or ACTUAL racism, but hyperfocusing on it and blaming it for all the problems the black community has is nonsense, and thats exactly what is happening.
     
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    Here's an article I generally tend to agree with. Glossed it over rather quickly.

    The impact of drug laws, and the harsher treatment black men get from the criminal justice system, means that many have records that scare employers away. But research indicates that white applicants with criminal records are more likely to get interviews than blacks without criminal records.

    A lot of the well-paid blue-collar jobs once abundant in cities have vanished. Moynihan lamented that unemployment had long been much higher for black men than for whites, and the gap is bigger today.
    https://reason.com/2015/02/26/the-black-family-in-1965-and-today/

    The black families did fairly well in this country up until the 1960s or so. The ghettos used to be thriving neighborhoods.
     
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    Gotta have a job. Idle hands are the work of the devil. As the saying goes.
    And in today's world, education is needed for many jobs.
     
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    All due respect, but are you saying that he wasn't strangled out by police ?
     
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    What underlying issue is that?

    The one that shows black people are less likely to be shot by white cops?

    The one where this guy died under a progressive police department?
     
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    BS. Did you see the video in Minneapolis where the people were sitting on their porch and the police walked by, screamed at them to "go inside" and with 5 seconds they fired non lethal rounds at them.

    Did any of them get fired for that ? Held accountable in any way ?
     
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    Police follow the violent crime, which is why black people are more likely to get arrested for drug crimes even when white people do more.

    I dont blame employers for not wanting to hire any person who has a record that is at all serious. All research that I've seen that make those claims are very poorly done. Like the one that found "black names" were less likely to get hired lmao.

    Black families were more intact and together in the 60s than now. So it makes no sense to attribute racism to it, as we certainly are not more racist now than then. Its policies of encouraging to marry the state. THAT is the issue. Solve that and the issues would atleast in a large proportion, go away.
     
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    irrelevant. once the resisting has stopped, force must also stop. The officer had his knee on his carotid artery for 8 minutes, while Floyd is handcuffed, laying face down on the pavement, and restrained by 2 other officers. This is murder 3.
     
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    The knee to the carotid of a handcuffed, face down laying and non moving suspect is illegal.
     
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    Do you think they should?

    I dont. This isn't a normal situation they are dealing with. They are dealing with rioters, who have killed a couple of them already and injured so many more.

    I'm not sure what we expect them to do. If we want them to gain control away from rioters, kid gloves have to come off. That means go indoors if they say so.
     
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    If only you and others in the left condemned all killings as vigorously as you do those of blacks[/QUOTE]
    ALL violence. ALL killings. ALL. ALL. Are condemned. Violence in NEVER, repeat, NEVER, the answer.

    But as Dr King said in your posted quote: a riot is the language of the unheard.

    What has been the cause of most of the riots in the last 50 yrs?
    And why has nothing seemingly done to change it?
     
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    I have no clue what marrying the state means.
     
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    ALL violence. ALL killings. ALL. ALL. Are condemned. Violence in NEVER, repeat, NEVER, the answer.

    But as Dr King said in your posted quote: a riot is the language of the unheard.

    What has been the cause of most of the riots in the last 50 yrs?
    And why has nothing seemingly done to change it?[/QUOTE]
    Yes, it is so easy to say "i condemn all violence". Yet what I see is people condemn all violence, but then completely lose their **** if the violence is towards a black person from a white person or a cop. The outrage is one sided, despite how "condemning" all sides may not be.

    A riot can be the language of the unheard, it can also be the language of the ignorant who have been willfully manipulated with nonsense narratives. As is the case here.

    The anger these people have, it's due to decades of narratives from MSM like CNN going almost completely in one direction. Whites hurting or killing blacks. Despite how the opposite occurs more often.

    If I had the backing of a political party and the MSM, in a nation of 320 million people and a couple decades I could have the nation believing anything I wanted.
     
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    Single family doesn't mean without completely. Often is the case, I suppose. But many divorced people still have kids shared by each parent.

    As 1 posted from Dr King: The unheard will riot. Paraphrased.
     
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    I think you do. I think you are being obtuse again, like you have throughout this entire thread.
     
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    The ignorant and willfully manipulated will riot as well. As is happening here.
     
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    Does it matter if the police dept is progressive? Whatever the hell that means.
     
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    You should ask the leftist mayor and the minority police chief what the problem is with their cops then.
     

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