George Soros calls for death of the USA dollar... Shane Warren sees this in vision?!

I first saw this interview back in 2012:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87l4512Q4rY

Shane Warren is shown a vision of a hurricane of dollar bills.... that he assumes means the devaluation of the USA dollar.
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Read more at http://endthelie.com/2011/04/09/glo...-the-death-of-the-dollar/#kICURjCXkFAOBEVw.99

 

North American churches should each have their own currency!
I am of the belief that each large church in North America should discuss the printing up of their own church currency unit such as has been done by a group of socially active citizens in Calgary, Canada with their CalgaryDollars.ca

Here is a good article on how important local currencies were during the Great Depression:


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http://www.whatcomwatch.org/php/WW_open.php?id=717

Surely everybody who reads this article would agree that we have many advantages over the people who lived in Worgl, Austria during the Great Depression?!

If they can do it....why can't we?

Here in Canada the only problem that we have to watch out for is that we must pay the same rate of taxation if we earn Calgary Dollars as if we had earned Canadian dollars....so we have to keep our level of bartering at the point where our tax bill doesn't get to high.....but if we volunteered our time and our church earned a local currency from another church....it could be amazing where this could lead!

 

Am I way off to write that the USA dollar is backed up by groups that seem to have a highly unethical agenda?

(post #35)…http://www.politicalforum.com/opini...t-romney-should-consider-running-again-4.html

 

The following is one of the clearest explanations for flaws in our monetary system that I have ever read:

http://mikesandler.org/ecolecon.htm#currency

 

For those of you who pray.... I will greatly appreciate your prayers...… because my ego.... is certainly leading me into temptation again!

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...ould-utah-state-dollar-save-usa-dollar-2.html

Could a Utah State Dollar save the USA Dollar?



Have you seen any of the following films:

1. The Future of Food
2. Food Inc
3. The World According to Monsanto.

If so..... then you know that the USA dollar to some degree is linked to and backed up by a plan to control the world's production of food in such a way that could eventually produce global famine.

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I got some good news on this front from AboveAlpha….. he thinks that we may not be in all that much danger from China joining in on this plan?!

http://www.politicalforum.com/austr...t-about-his-analysis-usa-relations-china.html
Is AA correct about his analysis of USA relations with China?
I was looking for another quotation by AA and found this one by accident........ Is AA correct that being heavily in debt to China has some major advantages?


http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...ing-russia-actually-abandoning-dollar-64.html

Russia Is Doing It – Russia Is Actually Abandoning The Dollar

post #637)......

AboveAlpha:

I saw the film "Death By China" about a year or so ago and this certainly does put a different spin on the whole situation?!

 

This video does a good job of elaborating on what many experts fear could happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRcjp7_Iaks
Confiscation and Inflation

 

Well..... it sure does seem as if some of what Pastor Shane Warren was shown about the future is happening?!

http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...na-puts-us-danger-selling-off-securities.html

China puts us in danger selling off securities

 

We need to take a more serious look at what is being done in other parts of the world.


http://www.barternewsweekly.com/2010/06/european-barter-assembly-chooses-to-create-irta-europe/

European Barter Assembly Chooses to Create IRTA Europe

 

There is a lot of truth in that cut and paste. Money has always been debt but interest was not always treated equally. Look up "jubilee" to see how the ancients dealt with excessive debts. Steve Keen has some interesting ideas about this as well, you should look him up. The economists that I prefer now are in the Modern Market Theory camp, MMT. They are the first group of economists that actually understand fiat money, debt and the true aim of all economies which is to sustain a level of prosperity for as many as possible without revolution, depression or war. It may sound like utopia and perhaps it is but they are not dreamers, check them out.

 

Woolley.... your post is profoundly encouraging. I campaigned for public office three times already and dealt with aspects of this theory in each campaign.

www.BankingSystemFlaws.blogspot.ca/

John Hotson is one of the Canadian economists who are explaining how this would work up here in Canada.

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...eform-our-unsustainable-financial-system.html

How can we now reform our unsustainable financial system?



Is John Hotson Ph. D. correct in the following assertion?

http://www.mailstar.net/money.html

How can the Democratic Party use this idea to recover their lost popularity?

A related question is.... did President Lincoln actually save American taxpayers roughly four billion dollars in interest payments?

If so.... how can we apply this principle in 2014 without causing excessive jitteriness on the financial markets?
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Two years ago I thought that the Democrats would be more likely to tackle this idea than the G. O. P. but The Donald is really impressing me as the guy with the courage to say and eventually do something about this????!!!

I hope?!

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...donald-trump-can-great-president-because.html

Donald Trump can be a GREAT President because.......



… of his deep level of empathy with the greatest forces that are keeping the average American down!

I saw two documentaries about The Donald yesterday evening. When I saw the part about how he purchased the Taj Mahal through financing arranged by about twenty different banks. When I heard that he had agreed to pay them a high rate of interest. I knew that The Donald had been guided by G-d to have a deep empathy for the situation faced by President Abraham Lincoln.

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http://www.michaeljournal.org/lincolnkennedy.htm
Melvin Sickler:

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The Fed.......... is set up in such a way that it is extremely useful in causing significant boom and bust cycles..... which tend to break unions. To a segment of the population strong unions are one of the greatest evils in America and the whole world.

 

So here is the weird thing about interest that seems obvious but is never discussed. It is basically a fee paid to a lender for money they never really had, they just seem to have the money when they lent it to you. By you taking on that debt, money was indeed created in full because you or I agreed to work or sell assets in order to pay it. Think of it this way, you deposit 1000 bucks in a bank, they then consider it an asset or reserve. Then, they lend out another 900 bucks that they made up out of thin air. That 900 bucks then gets spent and becomes another asset to another person in another bank and the cycle keeps repeating itself. The interest is the fee for using that money every time it flips over. If the fee is small, it is not a big deal. But when it becomes high, your ability to pay it off becomes very suspect so you end up in perpetual debt. This is exactly why the Jubilee was created. Rome used to just proscribe, in other words, kill all lenders once in a while. We have default or bankruptcy court to do the same. Check out a book by an antropologist called Money, the first 5000 years. Fascinating stuff.

 

I think you will really like the way that the late Jack Layton worded it.

 

Interesting!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt:_The_First_5000_Years

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The other truly fascinating part of ancient debt was that the only one issuing credits or money or redeemable things were the rulers. They were the ones that managed debts not private citizens. This ended in Rome around 130BC when there was a coup of sorts that created a money system based upon private lending not state lending. Once private lenders became the norm, the government lost total control of the economy and became beholden to the wealthy. This system continued for a long time until central banks fixed the problems in the early 1900s. Remember that JP Morgan once bailed out the US government, he had more dough than the Feds.

 

the US dollar was reserve since US came out the winner after the last world war, so the rich probably think today no one is going to have a nuclear war so invest in the commodities again as all future wars are economical.

 

I lend the bank £1,000

They keep £100 in reserve and lend out the other £900.

Nothing is created out of thin air.

I am now -£1,000
The bank is now +£100
And the borrower is now +£900

If the person lended to puts the £900 in another bank, that bank keeps £90 in reserve and lends out the £810 remaining.

Again, nothing is created out of thin air.

I am -£1,000
Bank A is +£100
Borrower A = £0
Bank B is +£90
And borrower B is + £810.



They don't lend out "another" £900, they lend out the very same £900 I deposited and keep the other £100 I deposited as a reserve.
(Fractional Reserve Banking).

 

No!!!
Absolutely not.

The first recorded human language was a trade language. Linear B.
The persons issuing credit were the merchants.

It's the very first thing a human ever wrote. (That we know of).


Our governments get bailed out by private money every day. People buy bonds or government takes loans from private banks.
Rulers have been borrowing money from the beginning.
The Bank of England for example was built to borrow money from the people to fund the Napoleonic War.

 

Please source your references. Sumer was the first nation we know of to create money or debt. It was a creation of the rulers.

 

If you deposit 1000 in the bank..... they will probably lend out 40,000 - a hundred thousand due to your 1000 that is deposited.

The factor varies depending on the particular laws of the nation and the specific circumstances of the economy.

 

Very interesting indeed!

I didn't know about this aspect of the whole formula!

 

It is true that rulers created debt instruments as a way of collecting taxes and tribute and more importantly as a way of comparing different sets of products for trade. For instance, Sumer Kings would say that a sheep was worth so much wheat or barley, it kept exchanges of different valued items organized so that taxes could be collected and people would provide a surplus to the king to fund armies, government, etc. Kings at the time understood that interest could create a system of debt peonage where the debtors would never be able to pay off a loan. They created a non-violent system to deal with it called a Jubilee or debt forgiveness. We call it bankruptcies now. It's all really quite interesting stuff.

 

I would go so far as to say that a better understanding of the true power of money could finance something along the line of a Unified Theory of Modern World Problems..........

http://www.politicalforum.com/opini...eory-modern-world-problems-even-possible.html
Is a Unified Theory of Modern World Problems even possible?
I began to use this phrase about five years ago.

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We don't need to in the US. We already have the legal and physical infrastructure to accomplish a boom in the circulation of money in our several States and republic.

The only holdup is the right, with their sad lack of a moral of "goodwill toward men".

 

I began the following discussion back on November 12, 2012 and I must admit.......
I was definitely hoping for a somewhat more enthusiastic response!

http://www.christianforums.com/thre...-should-each-have-their-own-currency.7701455/
North American churches should each have their own currency!