George W delivers Pizza

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  1. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    Why should they show up to this risible FARCE! What did they lie about exactly? They liberated a vile dictatorship and installed a democracy, they killed Saddam and his sons and AQ. Who did they torture exactly?
    God, it's incredible that anyone still believes these long debunked conspiracy theories.
     
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    Most deadly country in world for journalists. Nine-thousand Iraqi's killed in terror attacks committed by other Iraqis in 2016. Forty-five thousand Iraqis displaced in 2016. Chemical weapons used in Iraq in 2016. Eight-hundred children kidnapped and trained for war. Twenty-eight executions of gay men. Women and children are more restricted than ever. Things aren't so hot in Iraq; and you can blame it all on ISIS, but there was religious tensions
    In 2017, Iraq had almost 2,000 terrorist attacks--one of the highest number of terrorist attack in the world. Almost 4,200 people died in Iraq in 2017 due to terrorist attacks. Iraq is not the picture of peace that you make it out to be. Concerning the WMD's conveniently found years after Saddam's death: funny that they didn't find those weapons during the first few days of the war. The CIA, in 2004, stated there were no weapons of mass destruction. So finding them years after the war is rather suspicious; besides most of the weapons they found were inoperable, and forty years old.
     
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    And today with ISIS all but defeated what is the situation? The CIA said Saddam had no weapons programme, sanctions had forced it to be dismantled but plenty of WMD, over 5000 and perfectly serviceable plus uranium, hence why the US troops were affected by them.
     
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    I heard that the soldiers were poisoned by uranium depleted bombs fired from the US and UK. How precious it is that Bush has such a loyal defender. A little too obvious though. Give George a big kiss and tell him to eff-off for me.
     
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    Are the Democrats "concerned about the plight of others?" Can they not also end the shutdown?
     
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    LOL, it is not incredible that so many still see Dubya as a truthful and moral man. That's the goal of propaganda, and decades of it brings change.
     
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    Bush doesn't need defending, yes guys also suffered from depleted uranium but they were also exposed to Iraqi nerve gas;

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...t/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html
     
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    What propaganda? If anything GW's image has improved with time.
     
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    I view him as a well intentioned guy who got manipulated by Cheney and his advisors. I'm sure he'd be a nice guy to have a choof with.

    Confuses me that almost all of the people who wanted to withdraw from Iraq/Afghanistan are frothing at the mouth to stay in Syria.
     
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    Nerve gas that Bush Sr. and Reagan helped Iraq build, and that in 1991 knew where they were, and bombed them without regard to the US soldiers. During the Iran and Iraq war, they also helped Iran with their weapons procurement too--suppling both countries with enough weaponry to wipe each other off the map. Then after 9/11, Bush Jr. wanted the Iraqi weapons back, even though Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
    https://www.democracynow.org/2004/6/9/remembering_the_dead_reagan_armed_iraq
     
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    Presidents should not be manipulated about things concerning war. He knew exactly what he was doing. In my conspiratorial mind, the war was about looting half the Middle East's oil which sits in Iraq, and I conspiratorially say their ancient treasures many of which went missing.
     
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    Wow. Are you a member of the Bush family or just a paid troll?
     
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    What's your conspiratorial view of Syria?
     
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    Two words: water and oil
     
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    My conspiratorial side thinks it was an effort to destroy Europe with mass migration.
     
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    I think mass immigration was the overall goal, but the oil and national treasures were a nice catch too.
     
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    Propaganda you are unable to perceive.
     
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    So true, your last sentence.

    I am still not ready to describe Dubya as being well-intentioned. Maybe he is, but I see it as an act. Dyslexic, for sure, but not well-intentioned. He got his, and his friends got theirs. His family name is synonymous with a criminal organization.
     
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    Sure the West helped Iraq against Iran but as Kissinger said 'It was a shame they both couldn't lose'. No one helped them make WMDs, they weren't naïve, if some Japanese cult can make them so can any nation state.
     
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    Like what?
     
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    Explain exactly?
     
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    I'm pretty sure I read where the US and UK helped them make their WMD's or sold them WMD's to them; but it doesn't matter. Jeb will never get elected and Jr. can't run again, so. . .
     
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    Unless you can give me a source I'll have to disregard your claim.
     
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    Reports by the US Senate's committee on banking, housing and urban affairs -- which oversees American exports policy -- reveal that the US, under the successive administrations of Ronald Reagan and George Bush Snr, sold materials including anthrax, VX nerve gas, West Nile fever germs and botulism to Iraq right up until March 1992, as well as germs similar to tuberculosis and pneumonia. Other bacteria sold included brucella melitensis, which damages.
    The Senate report also makes clear that: 'The United States provided the government of Iraq with 'dual use' licensed materials which assisted in the development of Iraqi chemical, biological and missile-system programmes.'


    This assistance, according to the report, included 'chemical warfare-agent precursors, chemical warfare-agent production facility plans and technical drawings, chemical warfare filling equipment, biological warfare-related materials, missile fabrication equipment and missile system guidance equipment'.
    https://rense.com/general29/wesold.htm

    The link doesn't work, so I cut and pasted from the website.
    There are multiply sites that say pretty much the same things.
     
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    You're correct although I would point out this is dual use technology and also necessary for medical research and countering Iran's WMDs
     

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