German minister calls american ambassador Grenell "Witzfigur" (laughable Clown)

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  1. vman12

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    So much homophobia.
     
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    Jup, Greece is nicely recovering. Doing actually very well, the reforms are working, long way to go
     
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    homophobia, explain, entertain me.
     
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    I was in Berlin when the wall came down and was told that they got the dumbest people they could find to shoot their fellow Germans when anyone tried to escape. Many from the west were shaking hands with these illiterate thugs to show their friendship of East meets West but I never did, and never would. Their atrocities didn't end with WWII.
     
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    I enjoy his posts. They're comedic gold.
     
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    I had similar thoughts. West Germany bent over backwards, to make amendments for what had happened during the 3rd Reich.
    Because of it, it was accepted back into the community of nations, free nations. The East never did and created the follow up criminal state.
    Upon reunification they were given the same status West Germans had fought for. None of their political criminals was prosecuted, none of their criminal system was displayed and prosecuted.
    A very good friend of mine spent 7 years in solitary, his wife and children to, because they were caught trying to flee. Separated for 7 years without being able to communicate. They were bought free. First time they saw each other was when they were loaded on the busses. They did not dare to make eye contact. Neither with their children, nor with each other. Nobody of that criminal state was made responsible.
    They had it to easy and it shows, like our Neo Nazi kiddo.
     
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    It was much like the Nazi leaders whose friends helped them escape after WWII. And of course there has always been more Communist sympathizers than Nazi sympathizers, to make it easier, and still are.

    There were still tours of East Berlin at that time and, thanks to the anonymity of the Internet, I can admit that tears ran down my face when I saw what they did to these people, 'man's inhumanity to man'. I remain disgusted at those ignorants who have ever had a good word for anything Communist.
     
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    Very good assessment of what he is.
    His entertainment value is what keeps him off my ignore list. :)
     
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    You're the one who is confused. As a NATO member Germany is required to pay dues. NATO is not free for any member country.

    BERLIN — Germany, which had already announced that it will fall significantly short of NATO’s defense spending goals, annoying the United States, risks provoking Washington further by failing to reach even its own slimmed-down target.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/19/world/europe/germany-nato-spending-target.html
     
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    The former is unimportant, and the latter is wrong.

    NATO is Cold War inertia. Germany and, to a lesser extent, Turkey are starting to view the United States as more of a threat than Russia, and they're right. Russia can definitely overrun the Baltic States, and could plausibly overrun most of Poland before the Americans could muster a defense. I'm not saying this is going to happen, I don't think it will, I'm saying that Russia does pose a significant threat to Central Europe.

    Bullshit. If India and Pakistan start nuking each other, we're out.

    In a serious way, nobody is a threat to American power. But people stand up to us all the time. It happens every decade.
     
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    Did you know we sunk her sister Britannic with a mine?
     
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    They pay us. We gave guarantees, they send cash. Each year 25 billion €.
     
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    Defense spending, it means to spend 2% in our military. You obviously dont know what that means. Did you believe its a money transfer?
     
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    I can say same about you. Not very bright but entertaining
     
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    :applause:
     
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    That's no surprise either. But Patton's was likely the first symbolic piss in the Rhine.
     
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    As usual the Neo Nazi Kiddo is just running his mouth of. No raw unfiltered sewage was allowed to be released into the Rhein 20 years ago.
     
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    An American, a German and a Tyroler….
    An American, a German and someone from Tyrol (in Austria) are sitting in a ski hut. When the American finishes his glass of Budweiser, he throws it in the air, takes out his revolver and shoots the glass into a thousand pieces before saying, ‘we have so much money in America, we don’t drink from the same glass twice’.

    The German orders his glass of Warsteiner, drinks it, throws it in the air, steals the American’s revolver and shoots the glass into a thousand pieces. ‘In Germany’, he says, ‘we have so much money we also don’t need to drink from the same glass twice’.

    Not wanting to be left out, the local Tyroler drinks his Gösser, steals the American’s gun, shoots the German and says, ‘In Tyrol, we have so many Germans, we don’t have to drink with the same one twice’.

    :)
     
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    Perhaps, he was talking about bathing Germans? :-D
     
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    He came 2000 years late. Ceasar did it before. So did Napoleon.

    Beside that, didnt know Patton had such a small dick.
     
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    All this back and forth doesnt change a basic fact, neither your hate for Germany nor my anti americanism. That this leads to nothing.

    Trump wants that Germany builds up a stronger military and invest more in its defense. Thats understandable. But his methods lead to nothing.

    Germany is a souvereign nation. A democracy with elected officials, representing the will of the people.

    By throwing empty threats, insults and showing unfriendly behavior, Trump gets the direct oppossite of what he wants. No german representative with a spine could step infront his voters and tell them he does as a foreign leader orders him to do. If trump wants decide over Germany, he has to change the american constitution and give Germans voting rights in USA. When he is my leader, he can order.

    That s the direct reason, why Germany jokes about him and his vasalls like Grenell and their empty threats. Same counts about Nordstream II pipeline. No foreign power decides our energy politics.

    Trump recently went mad when France said they could negotiate between Iran and USA. Trump said nobody decides or speaks for USA. Same counts for all others. We decide our fate, no foreign leader who would love to be a tyrant over people who did not vote for him, nor could vote for him.

    I admit that on our side there are also representatives who act wrong. Laughing about USA or Trump is not better either. They should follow Merkel who simply ignores the white house and deals with governors ect on the USA side.

    On the basic line the relations between USA and Germany are ruined and i guess they wont be better any time soon.

    @Fred C Dobbs @flyboy56 @vman12
     
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    If the German people want to put their trust in Merkel, buy all their fuel from Russia, not meet their spending commitments, and ally with Iran.....

    Go right ahead.
     
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