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  1. Colonel K

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    Walking ten miles in someone's shoes is great! Once you've done it, He's ten miles away with no shoes on, and you have a new pair!
     
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    The red indian aphorism "Never judge another before you went not for a moon in his moccasins" expresses this what the german philosopher Rudolf Hermann Lotze called the first time in history "empathy". You used in your sentence a kind of antipathy and turned this sentence into its opposit. Are you able to explain why you and others are doing so?

    http://youtu.be/2-OKtqJGaW0
     
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    Understandable. There is no comment to be made. The Roman Catholic Church is wrong on a woman's right to chose, the right to die, and and GLBT rights and pedephile priests. These fakers are shutting themselves down around the world with their hipocracy. Their members in France and Ireland were among the first to go.
     
  4. Phil K

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    Not "shutting themselves down" at all (sadly) the Catholic church has fed itself on the gullibility of it's followers, and that won't change. The IRA/INLA/Real IRA/Continuity IRA are a fine example of raving bigotry masking as "nationalism" or "devotion" and plenty of Americans fund the murder, just because they are catholic. No other reason. Meanwhile the church itself is hideously corrupt. Yet healthier financially than ever, due to aforementioned gullibility of it's followers.
    Islam is far worse, when it comes to gullibility of it's followers, and their desire to enforce their ways on non-muslims. They make Catholics seem like non-religous philanthropists.
     
  5. Phil K

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    Not me, mate.
    I have a huge respect for Germans.
    Many English do, I know you doubt this, but that is led by the repulsive London media. The people themselves have the same love/hate relationship they have with the Scots and Aussies ! (In other words, competitive with, but take their side, when others criticize - like now, for example)
    My brother in law was a typical German. Fair haired, blue eyed, seemingly arrogant at first, but soft centred, and devoted to my sister.
    He was a huge loss when he died of cancer - which he bore with staggering bravery. Oddly, my sister went the same way years later - and as bravely too, this because she was "Going where he already was"
    So as you see, I have good reason to have a very high opinion of Germans.
    They're from the same blood stock as we anglo-saxons anyway.
    A lot of English should remember that.
    Until the first world war, Germans and British were staunch allies. The FRENCH were the enemy.
     
  6. Anobsitar

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    Do not confuse the love between your sister and her man with any thought on enemyship against anyone in this world. If you visit their grave do me please the favor to put a little stone somewhere on their grave - or somewhere in the near if you like to keep it clean - as a sign of my personal respect for them.

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    Sometimes I think that American citizens are idiots and do not understand a threat like the backward, corrupt, Roman Catholic Church. Then I read a post like yours.

    I particularly liked the part about the "gullibility of it's followers." If we can ever get a Pope of OUR choosing we could flatten these con men in a matter of hours. Just tell the followers what to do, and they will do it without question. Thank you for your post.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. Anobsitar

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    ... who are fighting under "Political Forum > Politics by Region > Western Europe > German People" against the catholic church because the holy father of the wonderful holy catholic church was born in Bavaria?

    http://youtu.be/DyvzfyqYm_s
     
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    I don't have any problems with this thread. The fact that Benny 16 is from Germany fits the thread. You have chosen to message the topic into Catholicism, and I just keep answering your questions.

    Why don't you take this thread back on topic. For famous Germans I suggest Dieter Zetsche CEO of Mercedes Benz who is credited with scuttling the American auto industry. However, Zetsche is expected to be replaced by Wolfgang Bernard as the quality and sales of Mercedes has dipped in recent years. Bernard is strong in design and marketing with Volkswagon.

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  10. Anobsitar

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    I hate it really very much if professional ignorants and bad politicial propagandists - like you are one in my eyes - are misusing my beloved jewish ancestors who died in the Holocaust for their dirty propagandistic 'games'. Do me the favor please never again to try to speak with me the rest of your whole life.

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    You sing the praises of the Catholic Church which betrayed your (so you claim), Jewish, relatives in the Holocaust? You need to learn how to read. Your fake indignance is easily read. A pretty cheap ploy to make a point in a message board. Your history is incorrect, and I know this as half my family is of the Hebrew faith. We lost family in Buchenwald in 1941.

    As far as future communications with you? There will be plenty, I enjoy outing frauds. You should be ashamed.
     
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    You may wonder how I knew Anobistar was a fake. It is because he was whining in public. The strength of the Hebrew people comes from their inner beliefs and ability to suffer through adversity on their own.

    You may recall a few years ago that a Jewish school here in Los Angeles was threatened with bombing. Those Jewish families would not be intimidated, they got their children together outside the school and marched them in line right up to the front door. Now that is courage, something Anobistar knows nothing of. Anobistar is a fake, probably not even a Jew, just an internet whiner with no credibility. This was his cheap trick.

    It does not hurt to remember that while about six million Jews died in the Holocaust, a million GLBT lost their lives as well. GLBT are another group that sheds their tears in private, not on an internet message board.
     
  13. Anobsitar

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    Good grieve - I never heard that only one german Jew in my family had a little talent to suffer. They all were just simple happy people. Lots of people had reasons to be thankful to the members of the jewish part of my family.

    By the way: I never said that I am a Jew - and as far as I know about 4000 homosexuals were murdered from the Nazis - and now I will stop to speak with you any longer.

    http://youtu.be/DuXB1a3NBCw
     
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    Go back through history and examine the behavior of the English. They have never tolerated the rise of a great power on the European continent, whether that was Spanish, French, Portugese, Italian, German, or any other nationality.

    The English have been smart, shrewd, and able to leverage the power of others even when they were relatively weak. The English were able, artuflly, and with great subtlety, to draw the United States into two world wars during the 20th Century. They have managed to avoid the entangling fianancial disaster that is the Euro in the 21st Century... very clever, intelligent people.

    But if the English, and the French, and the Germans, among others, don't enact strict controls on the large, ungovernable alien populations they have brought into their own midst, all of them will be undone....
     
  15. mepal1

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    Yes, we English do have a great influence in the world mainly because of our history and language.
    Despite our previous Labour goverment from 1997-2010 going on a wild spending spree, and blowing all our assets.....thankfully the one thing they did get right was not getting us to have the Euro........if that had happened we would of been in really deep trouble.
    Thankfully our current coalition goverment has stopped the rot, and while for the next 3-4 years there will be slow economic growth, it does look like the UK will see better days after 2015 (hopefully).
    The UK always survive somehow!

    But this is about the German people... i've met quite a few over the years and they are sensible, organised and very highly educated people on the whole.
    It is a tragedy for the German people at the moment that thier wealth through their hard working endeavours is somewhat being squandered to help the careless nations of Europe.
     
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    I love the Germans! I predicted to a number of them way back in the early 80's that West and East Germany would be reunified because a people as great as they are cannot be divided for long. If Germans, French, and English could form the nucleus of their own co-prosperity bloc, it would be a real powerhouse!
     
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    True......if the English, Germans and the French formed their own co-prosperity bloc, then that would be a very strong alliance indeed.

    Being English though, the Germans and the French would have to speak English though (for UK people learning German of French would be too much like hard work), no problem for the Germans as many of them speak very good English, but not so many Frogs speak English, and they would begrudgingly learn English. :)
     
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    Lots of luck with that. You have become a target by your own actions.

    So much of my irritation with you are sloppy with you statements and facts. For example you did not even look up the accurate number of GLBT killed in concentration camps. You just threw out a number, 4000. You were way off - not even close. Now, here are the facts. I am going to force you into accuracy if you are going to post in this forum. We have enough bull (*)(*)(*)(*)ters here.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_homosexuals_in_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Holocaust

    "In the 1920s, homosexual people in Germany, particularly in Berlin, enjoyed a higher level of freedom and acceptance than anywhere else in the world.[citation needed] However, upon the rise of Adolf Hitler, gay men and, to a lesser extent, lesbians, were two of the numerous groups targeted by the Nazi Party and were ultimately among Holocaust victims. Beginning in 1933, gay organizations were banned, scholarly books about homosexuality, and sexuality in general, were burned, and homosexuals within the Nazi Party itself were murdered. The Gestapo compiled lists of homosexuals, who were compelled to sexually conform to the "German norm."

    Between 1933–45, an estimated 100,000 men were arrested as homosexuals, of which some 50,000 were officially sentenced.[1] Most of these men served time in regular prisons, and an estimated 5,000 to 15,000 of those sentenced were incarcerated in Nazi concentration camps.[1] It is unclear how many of the 5,000 to 15,000 eventually perished in the camps, but leading scholar Ruediger Lautman believes that the death rate of homosexuals in concentration camps may have been as high as 60%. Homosexuals in the camps were treated in an unusually cruel manner by their captors.

    After the war, the treatment of homosexuals in concentration camps went unacknowledged by most countries, and some men were even re-arrested and imprisoned based on evidence found during the Nazi years.

    It was not until the 1980s that governments began to acknowledge this episode, and not until 2002 that the German government apologized to the gay community.

    This period still provokes controversy, however. In 2005, the European Parliament adopted a resolution on the Holocaust which included the persecution of homosexuals."
     
  19. Volker

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    What is your number then? Your facts don't have a number, but they seem to rather support the number of Anobsitar.

    And Jews don't whine in public about Holocaust? They like to do this.

    They almost made a religion out of Holocaust. And a big business.

    Not all of them, for sure, but many of them ...

    What is left in secular world to keep them together?

    Their religion loses importance, the Holocaust as a common element won't last that long, ok, they still have Israel.
     
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    Your antisemitism becomes not better if you are using politcal correct phrases like "Not all of them, for sure, but many of them". Your antisemitism ís a very deep shame for Germany. That's all what I as a descendant of one of the 15000 german Jews who survived the shoa in Germany is able to say to you.

    Best greetings from:

    Alfred Dreyfus
    Anne Frank
    Edith Stein
    Gad Beck
    Ignatz Bubis
    Jitzhack Rabin
    Joseph Süß-Oppenheimer
    Judith
    Lew Trotzki
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    Regina Jonas
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    Simon Wiesenthal
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    Ludwig Börne
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    Albert Einstein
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    ... and lots of others

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    What a backstabber you are. I try to defend you here and you start some anti-Semitism whining.

    Do you notice, that, if you are actually partially Jewish, you support the statement I made with your behavior?
     
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    You should by now be used to veing stabbed in the back by our psuedo/quasi - J - friends. You're liable to called an "anti-semite " even if you accidently bump against them on a bus:

    ;)
     
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    Volker - you never in your life met only one person who was like I. I'm a very seldom kind of German because people like you and lots of other Germans murdered their sisters and brothers - my people. And now you try to be an arrogant (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) and to hurt me because my people were murdered and the murderers lived without any problem happy and well respected as well in the GDR as in the rest of Germany and in lots of other places in the world? You are more than only an idiot if you try to attack me. I know very well what Germans did and I know very well what a bull(*)(*)(*)(*) your are speaking. You still have a chance in the eyes of the Lord. Use your chances and don't try to speak with me any longer. And something else: I'm not a Jew and I'm also not "partially Jewish" although I would be a proud Jew if I would be a Jew, Nazi.

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    Anob - why do you fly the German /Bavarian - flags ?


    :???:

    cheers.
     
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    Very easy: I'm a Bavarian. Bavarians are yodeling Germans.

    http://youtu.be/9ywmbelsEzQ
     

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