"German Wings" crashed today in Southern France

A plane carrying at least 150 people crashed in southern France on Tuesday en route from Barcelona to Düsseldorf, the French civil aviation authority said.

The Airbus A320 plane was operated by Lufthansa's Germanwings budget airline, and lost contact with air traffic control about an hour after it took off, the airline said.

A French military helicopter located the wreckage of the plane near the town of Barcelonnette in the French Alps, about 65 miles north of Nice, Reuters reported.

French Prime Minister Manuel Valls told parliament on Tuesday that a helicopter at the crash site confirmed that there were no survivors.

We have reports crashed #Germanwings #4U9525 plane has 'disintegrated,' and 'largest debris is the size of a car’.

French officer at Germanwings crash site says no apparent survivors; recovery likely to take days.

From reports we have, #Germanwings #4U9525 The plane is completely disintegrated. Debris spread over more than 2 kilometers.

Klick here for photos...

http://www.airlive.net/2015/03/breaking-crash-of-a320-in-south-of.html
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What a tragedy! My heart goes out to the relatives... the children.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/24/germanwings-plane-crash_n_6930028.html

 

Here is a short video :

http://www.thedailyobserver.ca/2015/03/24/germanwings-plane-crashes-in-southern-france-police

Many people, helicopters, police and the military are there. As I read earlier, nobody survived the crash.
Only yesterday the air plane was inspected, they say.
The flight recorder has been found.

 

The black box' been recovered, and as early as tomorrow we will know if it was mechanical failure, or Allahu Akbar. I personally give it 25-75 ratio.

 

It was probably standing to close to a Malasian airlines in the airport, the bad luck joojoo rubbed off.

 

That's how US to persuade it's allies to join war against Russia in Ukrain.

 

Seems a real shame for these things to be happening in this day and age. Shouldn't aviation be more mature (i.e. safer) than this by now?

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Pravda logic. Not likely.

 

Russian sub exercising EW to undermine Western confidence.... trolollol, 4000fpm descent is not too steep to recover from, and pilots would be well aware of minimum safe altitudes for that portion of the flight - seem's aircrew must have been incapacitated!?

 

The tactic has been seen in:

851. Why Malaysia airlines was selected as target (8/23/2014)

In #848, I said Malaysia was targeted because it keeps a friendship with China while China is a covert enemy of the US. In #845, I talked about German had sensed that E.U. was provoked by the US for a covert war with Russia. German is unwilling to follow the US instruction. It expelled the CIA Chief from the German as a protest.

Then a Chinese forum offered an information how Malaysia and German were hurt by heavy insurance loss in the two incidents. The insurance company of Malaysia Airline is a Germany.

1. MH370

2.. MH17

The comment said, “German was shot even it was laying on the ground”.

 

I agree. Something happened in that cockpit.

 

Pilot was locked out of cockpit moments before plane crashed in Alps, report says

A pilot on the doomed Germanwings airliner that went down into the Alps Tuesday apparently was locked out the cockpit moments before the plane crashed, killing all 150 on board, the New York Times reported Wednesday afternoon.

An investigator told the paper that evidence from a voice recorder indicated that the pilot had left the cockpit and could not re-enter. He tried knocking lightly on the door, and when there was no immediate answer, he began knocking more loudly.

Finally, the source told the Times, audio on the recorder revealed: “You can hear he is trying to smash the door down.”

The Fox News.

Looks more and more like Allahu Akbar flight to me.

 

So if the pilot-in-command had a medical emergency, I'd have thought the autopilot would have just followed instructions from the Flight Management System and continued on trying to follow the programmed planned (approved) track, probably at the same altitude hold, unless they program level changes in as well (thought not as they require ATC clearance) but those would be clear of terrain.

So there is a question still there..... but perhaps having only 2 pilots should mean at least 2 pilots up front at anyone time. Add a toilet perhaps, though its shortish flight and a guy can 'hold it' that long normally... perhaps not women who have smaller bladders.

They need to record cockpit video to the blackbox I think, perhaps even stream the same black box data to the manufacturers in realtime as normal operation so if something like this happens the data can be recovered more quickly from the saved offsite copy instead of having to dig/dive around for it amongst the wreck (if even found).

 

To you, it might. To most it would suggest suicide. Until we know more about the pilots, at least.

 

In today's world one need only check and see if the co-pilot was of the Islamic faith. Some mysteries really are just that easy to solve. Perhaps leftwingers will one day cease confusing wishful thinking for reality.

 

The sane would wait until such checks were done, and wild speculations based on hate were ignored.

 

No . . . those are just the ideologically driven people who are mostly atheists praying that it does not turn out to be an act of Islamic Terrorism because if it turns out to be then that will give them an ideologically generated case of heartburn.

 

Indeed. Egypt flight 990 was also ruled suicide. 300 people all decided to suicide together with (*)(*)(*)(*)ing suicidal pilot. Who, just before plane crashed into the ocean, uttered Allahu Akbar.

 

abcnews reports: ...
"It definitely looks like an emergency descent for unknown reasons but beyond that we don't know," Haueter said.

"It means something very quickly catastrophic was going on. We don't know the build-up to that," he added.

The rapid descent is the main cause of concern for Nance as the plane was dropping one and a half to two times as fast as normal. At 10:45 a.m., the plane was flying at 38,000 feet, but they began dropping one minute later, officials said on Tuesday.

By 10:53 a.m., they were down to roughly 6,000 feet, officials said.

“Most troubling is why in an area that they know the Alps are, that they go up to 15,000 feet, why did they not level off at 15,000 feet? Why continue down? That really indicates the possibility ... of incapacitation,” Nance said.


And then there is this report:
http://blogdogcicle.blogspot.ca/2015/03/witnesses-of-germanwings-flight-saw.html

Earlier I read about some witnesses had seen three fighter jets in the air at the same time as the Airbus.
I will search for it again in the morning. They are just waking up again in Europe, perhaps today we will learn more about this tragedy.

 

A pilot was locked out of the cockpit because his co-pilot inside the cockpit may have passed out or been experiencing serious health problems such as a heart attack. The strict security measures implemented after 9/11 may have backfired and the door to the cockpit can only be opened by someone inside. What is yet to be known is the reason why the pilot left the cockpit in the first place and it could be a bathroom break or something more serious.

 

really sad...

and so far, it seems that this is caused by human's factor, not the machinery problem of that plane...

 

That's horrible.

 

No. It was an Allahu Akbar flight.

 

There is no evidence to support your rash speculation. The copilot flew the plane into a mountain, killing everyone along with himself. Suicide/murder (since he died first by a fraction of a second)

 

So why hasn't any terrorist organisation claimed responsibility for it? I am not ruling out a terrorist attack, but it would seem pretty pointless to carry out such a devastating attack and not look to gain any publicity for your cause.

 

If I were a guessing man, I would suggest that the co-pilot went 'postal'. Low fair airlines are notorious for paying their pilots a pittance and telling them where to go when they complain.

But as a poster said earlier, a sudden severe medical problem with the co-pilot might explain why the pilot couldn't get into the cockpit. However, it seems pretty unlikely that there would be no contingency plan for the pilot to regain entry.

It has to be said, a terror attack would tick a lot of boxes.

 

Herr Lubitz ....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-the-pilots-on-Germanwings-flight-4U9525.html

This event arises a new security matter for civilian flights.

The door of the cockpit can be blocked from inside and from outside you can deactivate the block only using a code and only after a certain time [for that airline, as for I know, it's 20 minutes ... but the plane took 8 minutes to crash ...].

To avoid such a situation an other member of the crew [may be a hostess trained and qualified as "security operator"] has to stay in the cockpit when there is only one pilot / co-pilot.