GERMANY JOINS CHORUS CASTING DOUBT ON TRUMP ADMINISTRATION CLAIM THAT IRAN WAS BEHIND ATTACK ON OIL

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, and about 5% of the US military capability.

    I'm not swooning over your threats, so take it down a notch.
     
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    Actually, Germany trades with Iran selling them whatever they can to line Germany's pockets. In effect, since Germany helps Iran get around the sanctions that are intended to defund their terrorist activities, Germany aids and abets the killing of American troops in overseas actions.

    Furthermore, since Germany knows Iran wants to wipe Israel...the Jews...off the map, Germany is once again promoting the extermination of Jews.....they just want to point at Iran instead of the mirror when and if it happens.

    Germany is the cancer of Europe. Always has been and always will be. The place should have been nuked flat long ago.
     
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    Israel is not inclusive. Arabs, christians and others are treated like 2nd class citizens
     
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    Sobo Well-Known Member

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    What threats? Your country obviously doesnt dare to attack Iran. Your president has shown he is a coward.

    As long german workers are in Iran you would never attack any place where citizens of your "allies" are present.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really? Then why is a "palestinian" on their supreme court?

    Over 20% of Israel is Arab. Are these people abused?

    What country in the ME has a higher human rights index than Israel?

    Where does "palestine" get most of it's electricity and supplies?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're welcome to your opinion.
     
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    Influx of Islamic terrorism? No, you mean influx of their friends and trading partners! :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Ah yes. "Let's kill the Jews" is everyone's favorite game it seems.
     
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    Newsweek, really
    :roflol:


    When was the last time Germany or any Euro stood up on their hind legs
    like a real nation and deployed their military for a "noble" purpose
    without :flagus: involvement?

    Even India has sent a couple of navy vessels to the Persian Gulf.
    On their own. Like a real nation.


    No one is more in favor of letting Germany and its' Euros
    manage Persian Gulf security with no :flagus: assistance than Moi.
    With German and their Euro tax payers paying the bill.
    C'mon @Sobo take some responsibility.
    Or are you so sure the Russians will maintain your energy purchases? ;)



    Moi :oldman: :flagus: :salute:



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    What a way to train sailors!
     
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  10. Sobo

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    Its not an opinion. Its a fact.

    Did Trump attack? no. So point proven.

    You would never ttack a place where german workers are present.
     
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    Well I guess there's one way for Iran to find out.

    If you're allied with the people shooting at us, that's your decision.
     
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    In Iran are may german tourists as well. And german workers who work on oil and gas projects, industrial and infrastructure projects.

    Also lots of french.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't have to go to Iran to get killed. They send them to Munich to shoot up German malls.
     
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    The point is that you can't give the terrorist label to every nation and at whim. That Israel considers Hezbollah a threat is understandable, and that Lebanon considers Israel a threat is understandable, but it doesn't mean they are terrorists or that Iran who supports them are terrorists.

    I would consider labelling the US, Israel, UK and the rest of the bunch that supports Al Nusra as being terrorists more than I would Iran.
     
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    Yeah.

    A list of Iranian terrorism a mile long is what we call a "whim" in the US.

    I think your translator is broken.
     
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    Were they from Iran, because I know that terrorists are Sunnis not Shia, or are you trying to present them as being from Iran to suit your own purpose no matter how skewed it might be.
     
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    Really? They send terrorists to munich to shot foreigners there?

    The guy who acted in munich shot only foreigners. He hated non germans and saw himself as "honorary aryan". All his victims were turks, kurds and arabs. He believed in doing so, he gains the support of Germans.

    As for Iran, never was a german killed in Iran. Germans are highly respected in Iran. Its a popular travel destination.
     
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    I get it now. Seems Iran is heavily tied to the Nazi past and the Aryan beliefs.

    Here we go again.
     
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    Just last week, Germany’s foreign minister was in Tehran sucking up to the Iranian leaders with plans for a new payment system called Instex, which is literally designed to get around U.S. sanctions and continue doing business with Iran.

    Iran believes it can divide and survive. It can survive Trump's maximum economic pressure because the Europeans want to take the pressure off. Why? Simple -- it's the Swamp. When the Obama Iran deal was finalized and sanctions were lifted, state-backed European businesses rushed in to grab the cash.

    Britain pushed numerous business interests, including a new solar energy park and their telecommunications company, Vodafone, partnering with Iranian internet firm HiWEB to help modernize its network. German manufacturing giant Siemens signed a contract worth at least 1.5 billion euros to build rail coaches and upgrade train tracks in Iran. And French carmaker Peugeot got a deal to open an Iranian plant producing 200,000 vehicles a year. It turns out that one-fifth -- one-fifth -- of Peugeot's entire global market was in Iran. And the former Rothschild banker who once worked on a bailout of Peugeot is none other than Emmanuel Macron, now president of France.https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ste...mmediate=true&spot_im_scroll_to_comments=true
     
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    So you now say USA law makers can make laws that also count for other nations?

    If so, do we also get voting rights in your next election? You know, no representation, without voting rights.

    Do you see the world as US subjects?
     
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    Yeah, Hitlers fault that Germany is an independend nation seeing no reason to break with Iran. Believe it or not, we are free to make our own decissions.
     
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    I know, I've said "go ahead" a bunch of times.
     
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    Germans are a lost cause

    Nothing we say will change them
     
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    It'll be one big mosque soon anyway.
     
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    I hate to tell you this but your government would not help Iran destroy American carriers. You are allowing your wishes to think they are reality.
     
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