GERMANY JOINS CHORUS CASTING DOUBT ON TRUMP ADMINISTRATION CLAIM THAT IRAN WAS BEHIND ATTACK ON OIL

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Iran appoints fiery general who vows to destroy Israel as new IRGC head

 

With apparently so many of you being on the bridge that day, it's no wonder it was shot down.

Yes, Iran attacked oil tankers all the time. Yes, Iran attacked US military ships, including almost sinking the Stark.

 

Military officers can only follow orders coming from Iran's government leaders.

Name just one Iranian political leader who has called for Israel's destruction.

 

The real problem with Iran going nuclear, is that aggressive nations like Saudi Arabia and Turkey would want them. Israel's problem is that they fear a nuclear Iran could better its bargaining position - which is really the reason Iran want's them.

But is it really worth it to Iran, knowing that Turkey and Saudi Arabia might end up with nukes as well? I don't think so.

 

I think you have that backwards, all the threats so far have come from you.

Go ahead and re-read our interactions from yesterday and see for yourself.

The only expectation the US has for it's allies is that they don't help people shooting at us, they don't push us out of trade markets, and pay their agreed to share of NATO.

Other than that, I don't know what you think the US wants from Germany or any European country.

The ME has always been chaos.

Your influx of 3rd world migrants was not the fault of the US (although, you will find I also did not agree with what Obama and Hillary Clinton did in the ME).

Your influx of 3rd world migrants was because of your leader Merkel, who INVITED them.

 

Sure. They were framed.

It's harder to find out where mines/missiles came from than obvious stuff like Russian hacking.

 

Mind reading is a talent I've noticed a lot of people here seem to have.

Please tell me how you know they knew they were under surveillance.

Sure, I can explain your confusion. These people are as stupid as the Iraqi's in thinking they can defeat us.

 

Right.

That's why they put the mine in the shipping lanes in the first place.

To prevent further damage to ships.

 

How did Merkel invite them? In 2016 she started to build a massive wall. She dropped number of migrants by 97%. Trump has nothing done yet.

And as for "allies". You want vasalls.

As soon as an allie country shows a different opinion, you act like a tyrant. Germany is too strong for that **** though.

You want us to stop the NS II pipeline and buy american fracking gas, which is 30% more expensive. Its like satire.

 

Yeah. You keep believing that. Helps you sleep?

 

Of course it has some. Obama sent them many pallet full of mullahs!

 

"Der Islam gehört zu Deutschland." - Merkel

Es liegt nicht in meiner Macht – und nicht in der Macht irgendeines Menschen in Deutschland – zu bestimmen, wie viele Menschen hierher kommen. - Merkel

She only dropped the number of migrants because she was about to lose her position. If she actually cared about Germany, she wouldn't have done it in the first place.

You know what's satire? The US spending billions of dollars to "protect" Europe from Russia, and your plan is to fund Russia with the majority of your energy requirements.

Meanwhile, your military does training with broomsticks.

 

No, i dont believe in pathetic gods.

I´m a god myself. No need for such rubbish.

 

You are free to lower your offer for gas about 30% to match the russian offer. Win competition. Thats called capitalism.

Building the NS II pipeline does not mean that you cant offer your gas here.

And we have 3.5 million muslims in a population of 83 million Germans. So of course Islam is a part of Germany. Islam is also part of USA.

What Merkel said was a fact.

She also said 2015 will never ever repeat.

 

As I said, you mentioned "satire".

What do you call being reliant on Russia for your energy needs when Europe considers Russia an enemy? It is ridiculous.

You have 3.5 million for now.

If Islam is not part of Germany, why did Merkel say it was?

 

Where does Europe consider Russia an enemy? Last time i checked, Germany and also France do not consider Russia an enemy.

And are you not fluent in English?

With 3. 5 million Muslims, Islam is a part of Germany. Its also a part of USA. A small part but its part of the nation. What Merkel said was a mere fact.

We once had 6 million jews. They were also part of Germany and the jews living in Germany today are also part of Germany.

We are not reliant on Russia for energy.

There is a nice LNG terminal in Wilhelmshaven.

You can deliver your gas evry day. Germans can chose if they buy russian gas or american gas. Thats capitalism and open market.

Your gas is 30% more expensive though. Lower the price and Germans will buy it.

 

What's the purpose of NATO?

There you go with the insults again.

60-70% of your total energy is obtained from Russia.

They could take Germany without a shot fired. They'd just have to turn off your fuel supply.

 

This one would obviously not resist a nuclear war with Israel

 

Wrong, Germany gets 30% of its energy from Russia.

And again, if they take out our fuel supply, we have storage for 9 months. Putin loses his only big customer though. He could not pay salaries or pensions anymore.

Plus we also have the LNG Terminal.

You are free to ship as much LNG as you want. Make an offer and it will outcompete Russia.

Thats capitalism. We have both options avaivable. Russian pipeline gas and and aerican fracking gas.

Beside that, Russia never broke a treaty with Germany in last 70 years. Even in worst cold war times, they always delivered.

USA broke multiple contracts though.

What if Trump is unhappy with our tariffs politics and ends the contract to deliver gas in Germany in winter, too force us to agree to his "deals"?

 

For iran nukes are not for deterrence against other nukes

They intend to use them for the greater glory of allah

 

This isn't an argument regarding capitalism, it's about spending money in NATO while buying your energy from the "enemy" NATO is designed to protect you from.

If Russia is no longer an enemy, then NATO should be disbanded and Europe should provide for it's own defense.

 

Don't let the reaction of some posters on the forum with their harshness and one sidedness towards the Arabs, or the cruel actions of the Israeli soldiers towards the Palestinians blind you to reality. The Muslims consider the Jewish control of Palestine and Jerusalem as an insult to them and to their faith, and retaking it is paramount to them, regardless of the costs in human life and suffering.

I tried to understand why they feel insulted, and realized that it had to be a projection of how they feel towards others when they are in control. The term dhimmi for non Muslims, means slavery.

As an example, in Egypt the Arabs feel contempt towards the Christian Copts and see them as inferior. While in Syria the Sunnis felt contempt for the Alawites as being below them. The only reason the Assad's were able to come to power, was through the military. The Sunnis saw serving in the army as being below them so it was relegated to others.

This is one of the reasons of the war in Syria. The Sunnis wanted control, but when they joined the jihadists they realized how much better off they had it with Assad, and rejoined his ranks.

 

And there's the difference, Americans would rather be free than omnipotent.

 

Liberals insisted that trump staged the tanker and drone incidents so he would have an excuse for war with Iran. Trump got his excuse, but still declined to attack. This means the basic premise that
the Liberals used to blame Trump for the incidents was wrong. Since he did NOT want war, what reason would he have for staging the attacks? Rationally, it would make more sense for Iran to
attack the tankers than the US. If Trump doesn't want war, then he has no motive.

 

could be, we need to be sure

woudl you recommend bombing Russia without being 100% sure?