Germany nixes US request to join naval mission off Iran

It was illegal. No UN mandate

 

So everything without a UN mandate is illegal?
Putin the dictator thinks it's illegal.
And since most of the countries in the UN are crap countries it's pretty clear that the UN is crap too.
And the EU is politically irrelevant so who cares what they think.

 

According to international law evry war without UN support is illegal. yes.

I´m a federal cop. Can i shot you in the USA because you are irrelevant?

And seriously you call the greatest economic player in the world irrelevant?

I have a question, what should EU do to become relevant? And will you like that?

 

Break apart and go back to individual countries and mind your own business.

 

You want weak little vasalls like the UK that you can bully around, right?

I tell you where we mind our own business. By trading with Russia, building gas pipelines to Russia and by supporting Iran against your sanctions.

I believe we should also end the monroe docrtine and play a far more relevant factor in meso and south america. Its important to erase the influence from USA out of south america.

We live in a world of enemies. Chia is our Enemy. Russia is our Enemy. USA is our enemy. and its important to keep all at bay. We can do that best united.

 

No, i don't want vassals. Don't need them.
We don't need to bully anyone and we don't

Funny that you think the EU is the Empire but all you really are is the Tauntaun that han solo slit open to get Luke warm.

 

No, we are not a Tauntaun.

Face reality. We exploit you. You die in our wars. We take your tax money and use your soldiers as cannon fooder. We spend our money for luxus while your soldiers die for us. You have a rotten health care system, while we exploit you.

Our corporations crush your workers. Our politicians take you from behind.

We sell your classified data to your enemies.

If you like Star Wars, we are more like this guy here



We will be your doom and you know that.

Germany knows almost evrything from your internal security. Your past presidents were so dumb, they connected their closest allies into your security grid.

Nothing does more damage than a former friend going rogue.

 

If that's how your government really feels then we should nuke you immediately environmental consequences be damned.

But thanks for proving that your evil and now you can lay off about what America does.

 

You cant nuke us. We have nukes ourself.

How you think Iran was able to hijack one of your drones, break its signal and take control and land it?

You should hurry to build a new Air Force One. We hacked your old ones. You implemented the german BND so much into your NSA, that our secret service was able to get into areas it should not have been.

We even hacked talks between your then foreign secretary Clinton, that she had in the Air Force One.

Why you think Putin works so hard to get Germany on his side? And China tries same.

The day we switch sides, is your end.

 

Evil.

 

No, rational behavior.

Nations must first and formost secure their own people.

I expect from my government to always be prepared.

For last decades Germany acted quite loyal towards your country. IN recent years we feel more and more this friendship leads to nothing.

 

Shipping in the Persian Gulf is secure, as long as Iran sees it in its interest to keep it secure. If and when Iran decides otherwise, any military asset by outsiders will merely be an additional target for Iran to take out.

 

The Fourth Reich?

 

Is your country a Reich as well? You have a problem with a Germany standing for its own people? Last time i checked, Australia does the same.

I have a question for you, a Germany that stands souvereign and for its own security is a 4th Reich for you? Even so its politics are not different to other nations like USA, Japan or Australia?

Do you expect us to act submissive and in self denial?

 

You have the nukes we gave you, Do you honestly think they'd work against us?

. We spend something like well over 10x on military as do you. And as much as you're into our grid, we're into yours. Who's hacking who?

Stop being silly with all the bellicose posturing anyway. Germany's gone back to being what it was throughout most of the 19th century. Mainly academics, artists and philosophers, nice people as long as they didn't get too full of themselves.

 

I expect Germany to be a peacful entity. Simple as that. Just like Australia is.

 

For Germany to become the great power it has the obvious potential to be, it will need to help steer the EU away from NATO, replacing it with a strictly European defense force; do more to end the role of the USD in international trade and banking, including by making sure all trade with the EU (including oil purchases) are pegged to and conducted in the Euro, and instituting sanctions and reciprocal measures against the use of the dollar as a means to impose US extraterritorial laws and sanctions (and by shielding European banks from the heavy fines imposed by Washington on such banks in pursuit of its unilateral policies); and adopt a strictly European foreign policy (but without falling in the trap of taking up ideologies that would bring it into unnecessary conflict with all sorts of other countries who are equally fed up with US hegemonic policies).

We are in the early stages of some of these things already happening, but they need to gain momentum and strength.

 

We have the 2nd largest stockpile of Plutonium in the world. 2500 tons. We can build hundreds of nukes in a matter of weeks, I´m quite sure Plutonium always works.

Germany followed the japan option. To have the ability to build any form of nuke and just be one screw driver away to do so.

We dont want fight a war against you, but in worst case we have the technological capability to erase humanity from the face of the world. Tell me, how much does nour military budget help you, when a CRISPR/CAS virus is released in your nation, erasing your population and causing social collapse to your country?

 

Australia is anything but peaceful. Beside that, Germany must have the ability to strike back against US tyranny when needed.

What we witness is a USA that acts more and more tyrannical. It reached so far, they they try to dictate us politics. Im sure you agree, that we must be able to strike bck in worst case scenario.

 

Mining and hijacking ships is not secure.

 

International allows tit for tat. UK took an iranian ship, Iran took one of theirs.

Interesting article today in "Welt". US ambassador Grenell said USA is very disappointed that Germany does not help them. He said that Germany could have cooled down the conflict, since Iran trusts Germany and any german military vessel presence would make the area more secure, since Iran would not attack.

German foreign minister Maas said, that Germany will not participate because US government is not predictable and untrustworthy. Breaking promises and contracts on a daily base, vaing madman like Bolton as advisors, could easily escelate this into full blown war. And Germany is not interested to wage war against Iran.

 

Those were minor incidents to remind folks that, ultimately, security in the Persian Gulf cannot be constructed in pursuit of creating insecurity for Iran. Otherwise, if Iran wanted to, nothing would be heading in and out of the Persian Gulf, period, Whoever tells you otherwise either doesn't know what they are talking about or is simply lying to you.

 

Sure.....in worst case scenario. In this peaceful backwater, we have not been made aware of any overt act of aggression against Germany by the USA. On what basis do you claim that Australia is anything but peaceful? I am damn sure we did not precipitate two World Wars or any War for that matter.

 

Does Germany have anyone else in mind?

 

The Aboriginal people we talked with at Daintree NP might disagree with you. Also your neighbors like Fiji and Papua Newguinea get again and again bullied by Australia.

That said, i give you an example. Germany has a gas pipeline called Nordstream that brings gas from Russia to Germany. We currently build a 2nd pipeline called Nordstream II.

USA want us to end this project and buy american gas, which is 30% more expensive. Germany said, no. So USA prepared sanctions against german corporations that work on the pipeline.

So how do you judge this? That USA wants dictate german energy politics and force us to buy their gas, even so its 30% more expensive? Do you see it as hostile behavior? Yes or no?

Would Australia see this not as hostile act?

We see this as just the beginning. If we step back on this USA will dictate more and more, until we have no freedom left.