Germany nixes US request to join naval mission off Iran

What do you imagine is "allowed"? Even food and medicine, which is exempt from US sanctions, is in practice not allowed because of other US sanctions and practices which expose any financial institution involved to ridiculous fines and penalties. So be happy: no trade with Iran is really allowed.

 

And the Iranian leaders know how to stop it all but hate Israel so much they won't do it.

 

What exactly is wrong about what we think? Why you think in black and white? Could it be that we have a diferent point of view?

if you had listen to us you would not have created the chaos in Libya or Syria or Iraq. Evrythng we predicted became reality.

Our point of view is, that you cant sanction Iran but foster an even more murderous regime like Saudi Arabia.

I tell you something, if Irans influence is gone...Saudi Arabia would turn that region into a nightmare. I know no regime more vile, sick and perverted as the saudi one

 

There is a deeper issue running. What if Iran acknowledges Israel but keeps its defense up against the vile regime of Saudi Arabia?

Iran has the most educated and skilled work force in the region. It will naturally rise as the local leader. Would USA accept that?

 

What if pigs fly and Hitler was never born?

 

Hmm so America is supposed to sit back and do nothing when terrorists attack us, or France or,or or?
That's called appeasement and we have seen in the past what happens when you practice it. Poland gets invaded by evil Germans.

 

Listen, unlike the regime in Iran which is (at least rhetorically) committed to its anti-Israeli stance, at anytime prior to Israel becoming a charter member of PNAC and becoming obsessed with Iran, I would have personally favored Iran having good relations with Israel. But, at the moment, I would be disgusted with Iran if it compromises in the slightest in the face of this lawless bullying by the US. Whatever the cost, for me at least, Iranian independence and integrity is non-negotiable.

 

You are claiming that the right to terrorize Israel is an imperative part of Iranian independence?

Well ensuring that shipping in the Persian Gulf is not molested by Iran is an imperative part of global peacekeeping.

 

The right not to be dictated to by a party which enters into an agreement and then openly reneges on it after Iran had a,ready dismantled much of its nuclear infrastructure (built at great cost I might add), is a part of Iranian independence. And so is making sure Iran is not the latest victim of some Project for a New American Century.

 

Well consider it payback for stealing BPs oil infrastructure.

 

I don't want to throw this thread into a tangent by responding to your silly comment about "stealing BP's infrastructure", but if we want to talk about payback, I am sure the ledger won't look good for any of the sides you seem to support.

 

So if payback is a bad idea umm why retaliate on international shipping for what an American president did?

 

The terrorists that attacked you and France are sunni. Funded by ISIS and ISIS is funded by Saudi Arabia. Iran fights ISIS. So let me get thist right...you fight a nation that fights the terrorists that attack you and support the country that pays the terrorists which attack you? Do you see the problem in that?

 

The British tanker was seized for what the Brits had done, pirating an Iranian tanker. The UAE affiliated tankers, on the other hand, for what the role the UAE was playing stirring the pot (UAE's sheikh part of what Zariff has called the US "B" team, led by Benjamin Netanyahu, with John Bolton, Saudi psychopath, Mohammad Bin Salman, and UAE's Sheikh Mohammed Bin Zayed, the other notable members).

 

Iran has no right to sell oil to Syria, that's why the tanker was stopped.

 

Iran has every right to sell oil to anyone it wants.

 

Iran has evry right to sell oil to Syria. The EU mae this even clear in an official statement and said the UK acted on US orders.