Germany rejects commitment to spend 2 % of GDP on defense

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    Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel said it was "quite unrealistic" to believe Germany would spend 2% of its economic output on the military.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39460685

    The US should invoke Article 13 of the North Atlantic Treaty immediately. NATO is one foreign entanglement we can live without.
     
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    An appropriate U.S. response may be to reduce its spending on NATO by an amount equal to the amount other NATO nations fail to pay.
     
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    We don't spend that much 'on NATO'. We spend much, much more on maintaining forces, and the means to deploy them, that can be used to support NATO, but can also be used for other tasks as well. Cutting those forces would be detrimental to our own interests, so that would not be an 'appropriate U.S. response'. Being in NATO is no longer in our national interests, all it does is cost us a lot of money and bring us into conflict with the Russians. It's time to consign it to the history books.
     
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    Real good thing and could happen in German defence.
     
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    Germany has spent more than 2% GNP in the past on its military, and it can do it again.

    They can easily put 21 Billion they spend on refugees by kicking them out and putting that money to use in the military.

    For that they can contribute about 21 divisions of lnfantry---which would be quite a help. And if a few thousand of their men die in combat---it's no skin off our noses!
     
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    They has 20 divisions today's fit then reserve force will going upod or proffesional Armed Forces will go to old size 185.000 or 210.000.

    40.000 Soldiers includdes in reserve force apointment Wikileaks.

    Final moment thus Bundeswehr.
     
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    I know I Dream war sum Germany will haved.

    200.000 ground forces and Air Force just with 60.000 personnal.

    Navy will be gone from defence branches.


    With 260.000 proffesional forces Germany will foreign job + war home.
     
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    No foreign wars with the Army. With thus sum.
     
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    My voices blames Germany because they were Nazi's but what can thus thug do if Germany goes to my sum I just say Another day in PF with 200.000 ground forces and 60.000 personnal in the Air Force ?!

    My voices are stupidfy outlandish in Sweden. Thugs dislike also White Americans.

    What is themes problem in begun have they stomach feelings some Finn thugs ?!
     
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    Balkan countries can't do anything if Germany goes up in military forces!
     
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    Sie interessieren mich nicht.
     
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    One gang Lord cannot win from distance against me so I am Winner this race. Yes of course I did likes hard rock how one gang Lord cannot understand. Yes. He is from Balkan.
     
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    Gang Lords cannot do anything against Germany and of course Nazi Germany too. Direckly killed thugs.
     
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    You are pathetic.
     
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    260.000 proffesional Armed Forces they needed. :floating:
     
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    Hey I did 2 years protecting West Germany while serving in the US Army. So I can talk.

    America has 300 million people, Germany 80 million.

    America has about 2,100,000 active and reserve military troops.

    Germany has only about 325,000 active and reserve military troops.
    http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=Germany

    So based on population Germany should have 420,000 or about 100,000 more.

    So Germany could and SHOULD create many more divisions than what they already have.
    http://www.armedforces.co.uk/Europeandefence/edcountries/countrygermany.htm

    It call "equality" "fairness" "pulling your own weight"....
     
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    We are a democracy. We have as much service personal as our people think is necessary. We will propably just do what italy and poland do. Put the firefighter and police budgrt in defense and then have tge right numbers on paper. That said, your milits4y staff dieing is better for us than ours.
     
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    Germany should have 300.000 proffesional + reserve togheter.
     
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    Pathetic freeloaders.
     
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    Why? You said it yourself.

    A dead german soldier is a tragedy. If one of yours dies its just a statistic.
     
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    Time to take the phone off the hook so the freeloaders won't have us to save the day yet again.
     
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    This is laughable on evry level.

    Germany is sorounded by other NATO countries. Even if we step out completly, we would still have no different status than now. Or do you plan to airlift the enemy over poland? :D

    I must also laugh about "save the day". We work hard to prevent most of the nonsense, that USA does. Like topeling Gaddafi and make Libya a failed state.

    Get lost.
     
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    According to some sources, there is an agreement that not only Germany but the rest of the NATO countries are supposed to be spending 2% of their GDP on NATO by 2020, but I haven't read that agreement so don't know if that's the case or not, but in any case we do indeed need to quit subsidizing European defense at our own, and toss the UN out of New York as well; it too is nothing but a social club for the worst dictators and criminal syndicates on the planet, and not any kind of benefit for anybody but assorted terrorist gangs like HAMAs and the PLO scum.

    Most of the European countries are going to turn into Islamo-nazi crap holes in the near future anyway, and we don't need to funding them any more; they would have to train fifth columnist vermin to meet many of their military needs and we would be truly stupid to keep subsidizing our future enemies. The EU is going to disintegrate in a couple of decades anyway. they have enough already to stop Russia; if they lack to will to do so and lack the will to shut down being overrun by fake 'refugees' from Islamo-Land, NATO isn't going to be able to do it for them.
     
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    Lol you are a Clown. We habe 0.4% Muslim in Thüringen for example. Numbers shrinking. You come from a shithole.
     
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    You're the clown here; Muslims make up over 16% of German voters, dumbass, and the number is growing. Your Merkel and the fake 'Left' sold you out for cheap dishwashers and labor.
     

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